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>I probably some hot takes here, but I’m very mixed on my feelings. I’ll go over the various groups I know best.
>Overall, there are some fantastic, kind, welcoming people in the community that has formed around the show! Talented artists who produce amazing works that help keep the community together. I think it’s important to remember that there’s a lot of good here besides the bad, and it would be good to make this place somewhere that is more open to new people coming in.
>The chuds are just an awful, miserable people, who don’t really care for the show, to the point they have their own name for the show because they’re too lazy to learn how to say a word that is not in their language. It’s unfortunate they need to be brought hope given how toxic they are, but the best we can do is not associate with them, hope they grow up, and move on with their lives.
>I find the 4chan users tend to be annoying. They are not like the chuds in that I think they do actually care about the show and are not acting with malicious intent. They are mostly internationals who want everyone else to worship them as they claim the show’s audience traces back solely to them. It’s true that circulation on 4chan did play a role in it, but if it wasn’t for 4chan, I think another site would’ve brought attention to it or even the YouTube algorithm just planting it in peoples’ feeds like it did mine would have done the trick. At this point I’ve had more than one interactions with 4chan users who boast how ‘important’ they were in 2018/2019 for spreading Deel 1 and the later Deel 1 + 2. This is something a lot of earlier Dutch viewers I’ve spoken with tend to dispute, saying there was very little non-Dutch audience before 2020. I am probably biased here, but I am more willing to believe the long-time Dutch viewers than the 4chan users trying to place a crown on themselves.
>YouTube is a mix of both the good and the bad, with creators and commenters who are cool and do amazing work, though some I suspect like interacting with or are chuds themselves. Comment sections on Ongezellig fan videos tend to be toxic from chuds using terms from their website.
>Massadonië is an… interesting place. There’s a lot of different kinds of people there, and some are really cool, some are alright, and some do more harm than good IMHO but are allowed to stay either because they’ve been there a long time or reasons I don’t really know. It’s seems somewhat segregated, with a primarily Dutch general chat and an English-only general chat, with a few channels that cross over. A lot of discussion on content there is over Ongezellig despite Studio Massa moving on from it. The majority of the Dutch-speaking members are indifferent or just hostile to non-Dutch members, though given one of the groups I mentioned earlier I feel the suspicion is not without reason. Most of them don’t care about the show and have moved on. We’ll see how/if the environment there changes at all.
This absolute gold mine of soyquotes
https://www.reddit.com/r/ongezellig/comments/1gh254i/how_do_you_feel_about_the_fanbase/
<REDDIT SPACE >But man, some of them are just pricks. Not many, but one told me that headcanoning maya as bisexual (I mean she has a boy and girl in her head AND she's a loser, cmon) meant I should kill myself (love to see it :). The other tampered with my art and added a wojak to mayas face. It felt wrong, to me. Just didn't like it much. (All because they asked me about sharty, and I still don't know what they meant)
<REDDIT SPACE >So yeah, some great people, some proper degenerates.
>International
>I agree with this, however there is a loud minority of members who are extremely toxic and disrespectful, they leave a bad stain on the community.
>Half of them are cool and appreciate the series for what it is.
>The other half probably have illegal content flooding their hard drives.
<Better not to share, for said knowledge is a horrible curse.
>Are you talking about 4chan? Or something 1000x worse?
<That and worse, at some point stuff gets illegal.
<PLEBBIT SPACE
<Just ignore that stuff, if I ever learnt something from the internet is that to judge a piece of media one must separate the product from the fandom
>not very good.
GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG
>Flood detected; Post discarded.
God's greatest gift to 'jakkers was the creation of Reddit. I heckin' love the orange forum
>grrrr stop posting about Trump because my clitty leaks otherwise
Kill fence sitters, fence sitters don't deserve to live, drown fence sitters in a pot of shit, hang fence sitters, launch fence sitters to the Sun, roundhouse kick a fence sitter into the concrete, total fence sitter death
Ok just seen the post
Geg, what a faggot. Xhe's a reddit moderator and wastes xhis days seething constantly about "muh fanbase". I predict that he'll leave in a couple of months, leaving Ongezellig only as a footnote and moving on to the next FOTM
>It’s unfortunate they need to be brought hope given how toxic they are, but the best we can do is not associate with them, hope they grow up, and move on with their lives.
I wonder how manly these guys feel having their security shattered by people from a 12-16 age range
>Where did all the racism and conspiracy people come from?
We should paste some trvthnvkes on where the actual fandom began geg.
Holy shit this might be the most day dreaming projectiob gay faggot post I have EVER read
The nerve to even imply that they can do that is enough for me to consider this the peak of the mind of a redditor: thinking everything else is built to serve them and that "le sensible normies will kick them out!" When did these people fucking join geeeeeeeeeeg
>You should have asked: why did the fandom become less racist and more mainstream?
<Reddit >Massa's historical shitpost videos (with some breakthroughs like GEKOLONISIERD) were ideal for 'casual racist' communities. Creating an animation full of controversial humor was basically a bullseye for that audience
<Reddit >Whoever brought Ongezellig to 4chan likely didn’t do it because it’s an animation about 'cute girls' but because of how controversial it was. My guess is the fandom always had racist tendencies, which grew stronger over time. But as with most 4chan memes, it also started becoming more mainstream and sanitized.
<[WORLD-ECONOMIC-FORUM SUSTAINABLE BIPOCLGBTQ+ INCLUSIVE SAFESPACE SPACING]
the miscreants of the community are the autistic nu-males/troons who see it as a cooler, more fringe version of azumanga or fuckin bocchitherock to permeate their neuroticism onto ad nauseum. some of the chud memes are funny but istg the next time i see an mspaint drawing of mymy getting her back blown out by chudjak im ripping my eyes out
I am once again requesting to dox every single faggot that uses those subs
Add a small reddit antenna on top and you get the average r/ongezellig user
<Not really, but ehy if you want I could take estrogen just for this occasion, fellow girl!
<I just watched it and im trans, so I am pretty close enough id say
It's fucking HRT central in there, 101% assured grooming
Like holy shit, someone mentions they're a teenage girl and the thread gets the record of replies, fucking pedotrannies
They want to replace us again
New seethe post if you want to make some easy 'quotes
>I know. Every time I encounter a troglidite or homo-erectus lookin ass chud who is spouting zellig its required I take at least an hour off of my life to contemplate my existence. Stay strong friendo.
if xhey're gonna call us troglodytes they can at least spell it correctly, geg
>If you just close your eyes, hold your breath, and curse their ancestors every time they interact with you, you can live like normal!!
Btw this guy trooned out, look at this
http://youtube.com/post/UgkxGhsv6h2WF0z3I9fdpCShbj5EbugnZnqe?si=7PqoLdIsclpjlG3h
>I don't know, but as long as they don't get TOO big in numbers they are useful to bolster the numbers of Ongezellig and its Fandoms influence. They're like our... useful idiots, if that makes sense. Definitely idiots because well, racism and "dancing israelis" chuds who spout R.R. and can't cope with the fact that the reason their life sucks is because of their own actions and not the "international boogeyman" shoving soy down their throats. But USEFUL because well, we're quite small and having a more people and even sometimes radicals in a fandom makes us stronger in that radicals are willing to post Ongezellions of videos on Ongezelligas a whole. I myself think these people can be Reformed through time, and if not, surely the normal people in the Fandom will have surpassed the chuds by incomprehensible levels. At the end of the day they are unfortunately essential to the survival of the Fandom, but with time, they will outdo their usefulness and either reform, or be forced out of the Fandom in a bloody exodus of tankies and neo-n*zi cucks. End of story, thanks for listening to my rant! 😊
<v. Papen, Kerensky, Giolitti (and many more) thought similar, but at the end they became useful idiots
>This is a fair and valid point, friend. But the chuds are numbered, and their ideas are much too radical even for the less free of thinkers to fall victim too. With such limited numbers, a chud takeover of the Fandom is frankly... impossible. We must remember, we are not the Soviet union. We are the ongezellig community, the conditions for their success are radically different then the conditions for ours. We are not a nation state. We are a Fandom of silly people who like a cartoon made by a one man studio. Our goals are fundamentally different and with such we must remember our approach is too. It is important to monitor the chuds, but they at the end of the day are in fact, more useful than harming. A symbiote that one day may turn parasite. It is important not to rely, but to use teh chuds. They are doing the same.
The dude I'm quoting is u/ReasonableAd3195 he's a libertarian jew and his account his a west bank coal mine, watch at your own risk.
this is the most stereotypically "Reddit" post I have ever seen
>:3
Blame the pajeet he didn't understand zarty-preddit politics
>anyone can be whoever they want as long as it doesn't harm anyone
>NO YOU CAN'T BE A RACIST!
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT DOESN'T HARM ANYONE?
>
>The show itself is harmless, however, if you migrate to sites such as soyzellig. party, the image board for ongezellig fans, you'll find plenty of homophobia, racism, sexism, bigotry, and all such other things
I wonder what would they say after opening /brabait/
>IMO, as long as it’s nothing explicit, go ahead
>Why are some people so weird about shipping nowadays?
>Yes, shipping is totally fine. They’re just fictional characters, you can do pretty much whatever you want
>As long as there isn't incestous shipping I don't think there is much harm to be done.
>the day 4chaners discover shipcourse will be the day of the lord’s reckoning
>WHY IS MASSA FRIENDS WITH SOMEONE WHO SHARES ZELLIG PORN
>ONLY I CAN DO THAT, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S YURI
>REMEMBER TO SEPARATE THE CREATOR FROM THE CREATION, LET'S CANCEL MASSA FOR THIS
>I think we're doing everything right :)
>Maybe more normal projects, art and fanfics will reduce the zarty conn-ACKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!
>IT'S A PETJE AF LEAK, DELETE THIS IMMEDIATELY!
>Massa VVILL come back...
>walglijke dingen zoals gore- en nfswkunst van de personages
lol they accidentally mistook the zooru for the zarty
For the DSL plus sized trans queens
>The zarty (soyzellig party) is a neo-Nazi 4chan board that is full of Ongezellig "fans", I think, they mainly make disgusting things like gore and nfsw art of the characters and rant about how the lqbtq and non-white people ruin everything
My language's deep connection allowed me to understand what he said, evendoe I don't speak dutch, but thank you anyway!
<LE REDDIT SPACE >Me and my friends couldn't be further from that, all being very liberal tumblr vibe kind of people.
>Sure there are some adult/edgy jokes in there but it wasn't a deal-breaker, we know how to take jokes despite being slandered as "snowflakes".
>The idea of 4-chan style fans isn't surprising as EVERY show has fans of this type so this is nothing new.
<LE REDDIT SPACE >Is the fandom really that bad or was it just a very vocal minority?
>They try so hard to make themselves look different, but they’re still 4channers in the end
they really come to a website full of gugus and soyteens baiting each other and think it's stormfront 2
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