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Just like most of the Zaryans, but we don't care about it.
i DO care though and i NEED to learn there's no way around it.
can we atleast see your drawings first
for reference here's a cobson i just drew, it's terrible but probably my top work if anything, but don't really count it as my work it's basically a trace but with extra steps i call this piece COALSON i fucking hate it, it makes me want to kill myself genuinely, i know i'll never go through with it but there's not many things that make me hate myself as much to kind of give you an idea. please save me if it's not too late!!!
ev&doe it's not, every single time i look at it i hate myself even more and regret drawing this shit even more i should have never even started that's what i hate myself about i want to quit every second because of just how brimmy my shit truly is it's terrible. i also drew a couple maya's but i'll be dead before i post those nigga they're just too retarded i feel terrible for maya in fact that's how bad those are
i am in your exact situation where i would be utterly disgusted with my drawings. used to be a "decent" artist for my age back in 6th grade but compared to now i am repulsed at how shit my drawings have become. to stop feeling like this, i just kept drawing more and more but i still suck. it's pretty humbling to accept that i actually need to take drawing a little more seriously
holy gemerald i fucking love this, and yet i have no fucking clue what to do i feel disgusted not just looking at my shit, it's AS i am drawing it's cringy it's brimmy it makes me want to DIE basically how tf do i overcome that or something, and that's right now when i'm all alone in my room, it's way worse when somewhere public or whatever like a stupid lecture, i wish i wouldn't care and just start drawing there but my insane mind won't let me, even if i know that no nigger will ever even get a glimpse, idk what to do i'm fucked
Btw I'm the guy who made >>76833 just now, which is funny since I've also been slacking on practicing for a bit so this was the first "real" drawing I've made in a while.
been there before. on some days, i have this urge to draw but never really act on it so i ended up procrastinating the day away playing vidya. the urge to draw crawling behind my back makes me feel very tense as i'm playing. when it's getting too overwhelming that's usually where i start drawing. also that's not my drawing geg
Hating how your art looks is a part of the process of improving, i despise some of my old shit.
Just start with the basics like simple anatomy and shapes and work your way up. It's good to prioritize learning one thing rather than a whole bunch of different.
A part of it is just drawing the same things a lot of times while making notice of all the mistakes in your previous attempts.
>arrow
Ideally probably on paper just to build better hand-eye coordination compared to screen. Not that you wouldn't develop if you used screen, but there's the overall feeling of tactility and line control that you wouldn't get with screens if you let it hold your hand too much with stabilizers and shit. Also try not to zoom in so much when you draw as that's not how you "see the big picture" when you draw IRL.
>>76844
thanks btw.
TRIAL AND ERROR
My first pieces were and are repulsive but experience is the best teacher, just trvst and keep drawing
Being able to draw a human(enough) face like picrel without imploding is already a good start, even if it is traced/referenced. Is there any other work we can see?
i said i wouldn't post muh maya's but here i am, 1st one i referenced off of a tutorial thing a zaryan had posted somewhere and 2nd one is a combination of my previous knowledge and that one frame from deel 4 or 5? i didn't use reference there doe, besides the 1st maya, i already hate this, this is the brimstone that will singlehandedly destroy sharty, zarty and everything around them that's how terrible those all are or something the longer i'm not sending this the more i want to not send this so i'll just post it now but i'll fucking hate myself more with each second passing, if the zarty implodes because of this brim it's only partially on me as again (YOU) asked for more or something o algo
oh right on the 2nd one i for some reason decided to go really small ig cuz i wanted to fit in all but i went a bit toooooo small like it's really hard to add any details nigga i hate this i hate this i hate this i hate this
i remember you, i'm glad you're trying to draw thoughbeit
i've drawn some stuff too myself, i could give you some tips idk
tips are always appreciated, how come you remember me though ever like who in the fuck do you think i am?
i've been talking to you for like a month nigga
i don't know why but you pop up everywhere i go, it's like a fucking horror movie.
oh that's silly isn't it? either you have schizo, i have schizo or we both have schizo, or no one who knows who cares anyway? as one has said
>i don't give a fuck
funny song... but maybe i am the person you think i am idk nigga
>>76858
>>76859
i too love maya, with all of my heart, but i feel terrible for creating such brimstone of her, if she would have been in her worst and we never met and she saw this shit she'd probably actually do some bad shit to herself maybe idk it's sad to think
you simply can not be a good traceGOD without the knowledge of drawing, yes i could recreate/trace something 1 to 1 but ask me to change/add ONE (1) thing and it'll look completely out of place, ugly and just not right, this piece, i could never do it even trace, to trace you still need SOME knowledge that's the issue, i don't have it! still gemmy piece of art though ever
one tip then would be to practice (Sherlock Holmes award) what I mean by that is take any drawing and try to copy it down on paper, not tracing it, but trying to emulate it. With enough time you'll pick up on the nuances of it
meds, we are not both schizo.
she would be charmed by your drawings since she can't draw very well either, anyway...
i think the best way to learn is to use references, i think you should learn how to portray realistic humans before moving onto stylized stuff.
>>76851
Using references is recommended. You can't just memorize every single detail of a character specially if you are a begginer. Even if you want to draw maya in your own style you'll need various reference images.
There are a lot of things that can help improving
- Figuring out the flaws from your last drawing.
- Asking for feedback from other artists.
- Looking at other artists work and paying close attention on how they draw certain parts of the body such as eyes, nose, hands, etc.
that's very helpful! thanks, as i had previously mentioned i drew it in a wayy too tiny scale which just made everything way harder and what not, i appreciate the feedback thing as well yeah thanks
>>76868
saying
>we are not both schizo
implies that either you or i am, it's not like you said "none of us are schizo" i'll just assume you're suggesting that i am schizo which fair enough i do clearly have some weird retardation going on, Maya would not be happy with the drawing doe as i had already pointed out it's just the truth also thanks for the advice
>>76867
and thank you kind stranger for the advice as well!
that only implies that if you're a pissbaby chud though
>>76874
>>76873
fuck you niggers, i'm tired of pretending like all of this raceplay shit is funny, normal or anything it is NOT acceptable, it stems from the "roots" of this place like sharty and i suppose/assume 4cuck but that still doesn't make this okay they're like 16 you sick fuck, one thing is to say
>oh i love maya
cuz i do, and many others do, that's fine, there's a difference between love and sex/sexual shit, i don't got the time to type out useless shit again rn cuz apparently i gotta draw now a bit just fuck off you stupid niggers.
>inb4 no fun allowed KYS NIGGERS!
No problem. Here's a lazy demonstration of using references to ensure the proportions are somewhat correct. I mostly just adjusted the jaw, nose and mouth positions. It still needs a lot of changes but it's for showing.
It doesn't help that there's a lot of pedophiles in the ongezellig fandom already.
>>76880
>>76879
seriously how is this shit allowed? i don't understand, my stupid retarded insane mind can not comprehend why anyone is allowed to make such insane, sexual, "jokes" on a board that is about a show with CLEARLY implied minors, kids and so on, look i'm all for free speech, i love to laugh at a good joke, but this is straight up borderline pedophilia, like huh?? what happened to the 1st rule? i think it's the 1st rule that literally says pornographic content of any kind is allowed NO KIND YOU STUPID NIGGER that also covers text based shit said there they only allow mild gore not mild sexual shit not racebait shit no sex shit you stupid imbecile FUCKING BLEED OUT DIE KYS STUPID NIGGERS! yes i leak, because this is disgusting this is absolutely unacceptable but somehow we're in this "society" if you want it that, that kind of "accepts" or more or less ignores this, no this is not acceptable i'm sorry but this is just wrong. i'm tired of pretending like this is fine, back on the sharty/maybe 4cuck even, at least the characters were idk they weren't literal 16 yo kids nigga, i mean now that is also posted there but what i'm saying is that the "joke" from my knowledge never even started on this particular show or whatever it didn't start on these girls but it came on them as a byproduct of the people who came into this place but never bothered to idk maybe like realize that this is morally wrong and fucked up to say? imagine some nigga lawyer would see your "funny" "racebait post" wtf is he supposed to even defend??? oh like fucking free speech? jokes? is that it? how tf is this okay? spadeson was never funny but this shit? this is beyond unfunny, this is creepy, borderline pedophilia and should in no way EVER be accepted idc i don't give a fuck if you think otherwise in fact i'll judge you for thinking other wise, at least if that other means that you're fine with shit like that because it simply is not and it should have been addressed a long time ago, i appreciate that this place seems to be trying to combat niggers and such but there needs to be some revision because i don't know what else to say this is sad and i'm disgusted that i have to even address this.
THIS, is my response to the nigger racebaiters. Please do better.
tsmt, also doesn't this place literally have an age rule of 18+ like technically no one is even supposed to be a minor on here, this doesn't really make it look better to say the least, i love ongezellig i love you people but some things just NEED to be let go, this should not be your or idk maybe already "our" thing, it simply is not okay.
>>76885
>seriously how is this shit allowed? i don't understand, my stupid retarded insane mind can not comprehend why anyone is allowed to make such insane, sexual, "jokes" on a board that is about a show with CLEARLY implied minors, kids and so on, look i'm all for free speech, i love to laugh at a good joke, but this is straight up borderline pedophilia, like huh?? what happened to the 1st rule? i think it's the 1st rule that literally says pornographic content of any kind is allowed NO KIND YOU STUPID NIGGER that also covers text based shit said there they only allow mild gore not mild sexual shit not racebait shit no sex shit you stupid imbecile FUCKING BLEED OUT DIE KYS STUPID NIGGERS! yes i leak, because this is disgusting this is absolutely unacceptable but somehow we're in this "society" if you want it that, that kind of "accepts" or more or less ignores this, no this is not acceptable i'm sorry but this is just wrong. i'm tired of pretending like this is fine, back on the sharty/maybe 4cuck even, at least the characters were idk they weren't literal 16 yo kids nigga, i mean now that is also posted there but what i'm saying is that the "joke" from my knowledge never even started on this particular show or whatever it didn't start on these girls but it came on them as a byproduct of the people who came into this place but never bothered to idk maybe like realize that this is morally wrong and fucked up to say? imagine some nigga lawyer would see your "funny" "racebait post" wtf is he supposed to even defend??? oh like fucking free speech? jokes? is that it? how tf is this okay? spadeson was never funny but this shit? this is beyond unfunny, this is creepy, borderline pedophilia and should in no way EVER be accepted idc i don't give a fuck if you think otherwise in fact i'll judge you for thinking other wise, at least if that other means that you're fine with shit like that because it simply is not and it should have been addressed a long time ago, i appreciate that this place seems to be trying to combat niggers and such but there needs to be some revision because i don't know what else to say this is sad and i'm disgusted that i have to even address this.
>THIS, is my response to the nigger racebaiters. Please do better.
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