Ongezellig

According to the FSI (Foreign Service Institute), dutch is a category 1 language, or, in other words, piss easy to learn for native english speakers.
Despite this the FSI does not have a course on dutch because they are selfish little FUCKS.

>>15328
what about us ESLgods

If it helps, I came to learn any word that ends with "-tion" is "-tie". I.e. (Presentation -> Presentatie)

lets start with the most important words (faggot, nigger, etc..)

>>15328
>easy to learn for native english speakers
ah poo

>>15330
>English as a second language
<English as a fifth language

>>15334
>English as a first language

>>15330
>>15333
it's probably easier since you are already familiar with the concept of noun gender or some shit probably idk

>>15328
japanese isnt that hard is it? maybe one of the three alphabets or something

>>15344
ohio ahh writing system
kanji are basically doodles and you have to memorize how each and every single one of them is read because it's not phonetic, or something

aryan method for learning: read through little prince once without the help of any dictionaries or translators, then read it again but stopping to look up words you don't understand

repeat with incresingly longer books until you become fluent

>>15348
but do you need kanji? can’t you make do without it?

goedenacht?

>>15351
is this a real thing or am i retarded. i’ll actually try it.

i dont even know how i learned english

Ongezellig is de geweldige show die altijd mijn ogen siert en altijd losstaat van de sjieke cultuur

>>15326
I will NOT learn dutch actually. It's a retarded nigger language unlike superior aryan anglo-saxon English

What foreign languages do mutts learn at school? Do they learn any?

>>15369
Reasonable

>>15376
Mutt media implies that "studying" spanish and french are common

>>15376
So says Wikipedia:

How the FUCK am I supposed to learn pronunciation on my own?

>>15381
Learn IPA (on wikipedia? i forgot how i did it, but it's easier when you get the big idea and look at the chart to compare sounds you know with those you don't) and look the language up on Wikipedia. There should be a phonology section. Some languages have their own articles for their phonology aside from a section on their main article, Dutch being one of them. this method works, can confirm, learned pinyin and jyutping this way.

>>15367
>i funny dot /co/

>>15354
it's real

Learn-yourself resources:
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Dutch
https://www.dutchgrammar.com/

Anyone know if there's something like these for Germans? Know it enough and I reckon that'd be easier.

>>15376
Lots of American kids are forced by their parents to learn languages they don't care for and never actually remember. In High School I wanted to learn French or German but my parents made go to Latin classes instead.

learning languages is soy

>>15428
>learning languages is soy

1000 most common words in Dutch
https://www.learndutch.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/e-book-lesson-1-20-1000DutchWords.pdf
Would it make sense to create a mnemosyne card set from this?

>>15434
It's been done before though
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1536959204

>>15381
I believe the DLI course I linked in the OP has audio tapes, or something.
>>15369
>>15428
die out

>>15428
Albeit, learning a language near purely due to its connection with a web-series you have enjoyed is retard-pilled and chudmaxxing my fellow redditor

>>15488
kill yourself nigger my ancestors didn't conquer and massacre almost the entire world for me to learn fucking dutch

>kill yourself nigger my ancestors didn't conquer and massacre almost the entire world for me to learn fucking dutch

>>15547
I LOOK LIKE THIS AND SAY THIS KIKE!!!! COPE!!!!!!!!

Stop being monolingual amerilards, You will not be retard and you will start being Dutch. Honestly Zoot should open a new board that only speaks in dutch because dutch is the god-given language and God is dutch

>>15568

1. Would make us like heyuri (ew)
2. English is God's language

btw when you're a n00b you're better off reading books translated into dutch rather than books originally written in dutch because they tend to use simpler language

>>15570
Holy trvke

>>15570
>>15572
most obvious samefag award

>>15570
>>15572
>>15573
samenigger

>>15574
nah

>>15568
Too early for that, get comfortable at understanding Dutch first. Learning a language from interaction with people who also don't know it is not the best idea.

>>15624
tsmt, you shouldn't rush it

I sound stupid as hell saying dutch words out loud, I think I'm just going to abstain from speaking for the moment

huh, I can't see my own post

Btw look up "dutch short stories" on zlib, those books are usually good for learning. Or just any other dutch-english dual-language books for that matter, if you find any.

>>15427
istg schools dont understand just let us learn the languages that will actually be fucking useful for us

>>15570
English is not God's language, if you wanna add emphasis onto anything, you pretty much have to swear, or your options are very limited.

>>15921
you can easily emphasize without cursing
it's just that your vocabulary is shit, bud

english is a rude niggerfaggot language because there's no formal second person pronouns

>>15326
Whenever you feel frustrated, remember:
KANKER KANKER KANKER KANKER

>>15933
Rape victim hands typed this

>>15935
the fuck?

>>15939
Oil up dutchcel I'm going to rape your ass RAW

>>15921
Do ESLs really, and I mean really think this? Are you completely and utterly serious? God speaks in English, English English in particular, none of that transatlantic rubbish, and certainly not some barbaric tongue spoken north of France. Look it up! Undeniable FACT.

>>15948
new stonetoss

>>15354
well, did you do it?

Oh yeah btw if you are going to try and use videogames as input make sure they're mostly text based or else you'll just get distracted by the game itself and learn absolutely nothing.
Here are some visual novels with dutch translations if you like or are willing to put up with weeb shit
https://vndb.org/v?q=&ch=&f=032gnlN18Nd01134oand4oweb4owin&s=26w

Is anyone else still on this or is it literally just me talking to myself like a madman?

>>16389
I'm starting to work on it this week.

Man, many of these prepositions seem redundant. Aan/Op seems like it's going to be a pain to get down.

Dutch language is actually a psyop in order to expand Netherland's influence on the world stage

>>15326
I met a Dutch girl at the pub yesterday and tried to speak Dutch to her like I learned from this thread. She told me I had a heavy Belgian accent. Am I doing something wrong or has 'zellig just poisoned my pronunciation?

>>18121
this thread has only been up for two weeks dude just how could you learn?

>>18121
> She told me I had a heavy Belgian accent.
you've failed mymy or something

>>18126
how much*

>>18126
>>18160
>implying I picked up ero Nederlands from watching 'zellig

https://nt2taalmenu.nl/learn-dutch-with-nt2taalmenu/

really cool website I found full of drills and exercises

Houdt iemand van vrienden op Duolingo willen zijn?

>>18821
Ik vermoord mezellf?

>>18821
add me at not_30k if you feel like doing so

>>18839
Hou jij ook van zelfmoord plegen?
>>18821
I don't know how long you've been learning Dutch but this isn't too bad. A more correct sentence would be: "Houdt er iemand van om vrienden op Duolingo te zijn?" or "Zou er iemand vrienden op Duolingo willen zijn?". Keep it up!

Why shouldn't I give up on this?

>ywn hear mymy correcting your shitty foreigner broken dutch and then saying "work on your dutch.." in a berating tone

>>21885
xis is indeed very sad, albeit just buy some indo gf and it'll be basically the same experience do not worry

>>21899
indos don't speak dutch

>>21904
Indos actually love the Netherlands and wish for a return to colonial days

Time to retvrn to my ancestors........

>geefopkoord werd wakker

>>15352
yes you need kanji if you're going to learn japanese

Kind of unrelated but I'm learning dutch and sharing my hecking journey or whatever in >>22531

I just started learning today. What I'm doing right now is reading de Bijbel in Dutch at https://www.wordproject.org/bibles/nl/01/1.htm .
I'm reading, and I don't translate/look up anything. I just try to guess the meaning with my knowledge of English, 'zellig, Genesis, some Rammstein I've listened to, and what I remember from browsing the 1000 Common.
I record the words I think I know in a text file, making sure to leave myself an indication of how confident I am with my definition of each word. After I get through one chapter, I read the chapter again, letting myself translate the words I don't know this time. I update the file, read through the file, try to memorize the words, and then repeat it all on the next chapter.
With this method, learning is actually kind of fun. I feel like I'm cracking some kind of code, making the most out of my limited knowledge-- and it's exciting.
<het reddit space
Here's the '1000 Common' I was talking about:
https://www.learndutch.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/e-book-lesson-1-20-1000DutchWords.pdf
Some other links:
https://4chanint.miraheze.org/wiki/Dutch#
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/Dutch
https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/WikiWaoordenboek:Hoofdpagina
Never give up on Dutch. Remember why you're doing this. Good luck, Zaryans.

Omhoog gaan

>>15326
>>26369 (Me)
Update:
When I'm lifting, I like to browse Wikipedia in between sets. Recently, I got the idea to start browsing the Dutch Wikipedia instead. Now, I'm getting more exposure. I recommend this tactic for other gymgoers. If you're not a gymgoer, you better start ASAP so then you can defend evropa.
Another tactic I like to use (since I'm on my computer 24/7) is to set my computer locale to Dutch and to have all my software in Dutch.
I'm improving my vocabulary, but I'm stagnating with regard to listening, speaking, and pronunciation. It would be greatly appreciated if anyone could recommend some cartoons, movies, or telly shows that use simple Dutch. Preferably without many characters from the south; I'd hate to pick up a B*lgian accent.
I did not put an arrow because I look like this and speak exactly like this.

>>28405
lovely lad keep going

>>28405
At risk of sounding like an idiot I've been watching episodes of "Het Klokhuis" for a while now which is quite simple dutch, comes with dutch subtitles, has about a gorillion episodes and all around is a relatively interesting watch (hetklokhuis.nl)

>>26369
>remember why you’re doing this
for some orange girls cartoon?

>for some orange girls cartoon

>>28405
what the hell does browsing wikipedia mean?

>>28441
>>28441
one interesting topic can lead you to more interesting topics and before you know it you have only thirty minutes before your history presentatie is due

any reccomendations for (preferably free) basic reading material in dutch like grades readers, children’s books, or anything

>>29619
Dikkie Dik is good stuff if you can find online examples
Jan, Jans en de kinderen. Its a comic so you get visual context with it
Both I saw on Internet Archive

>>28441
>what the hell does [self explanatory thing] mean?

>>28405
being a gymgoer lifter isn't the ideal hobby for such. Go to a Muay Thai/BJJ/MMA gym, although you can't browse the Dutch Wikipedia in between sets, since you'll look weird if you browse your phone in every 1min interval (if you get one that is)

Ideal would be 5 hours od Dutch study per day combined with both the gym and a martial art + don't forget to rewatch Ongezellig in its entirety before sleep

bvmq

>>15326
>this thread

>>33708
negated

Nederlands won

>>33708
trvke

>>33708
>DSL
NT2 you stupid nigger i SWEAR

>>15326
Alright, almost a year after I started
What I have learnt
>many many words in Dutch are similar to the Latin ones
>the hardest sound to learn is "g"
>Duolingo is indeed a gay clithole and Busuu is 1488 times better, especially to advance quickly on more advanced topics
>Dutch is actually really easy once you understand certain grammatical rules, if you've just started to you might have a problem with the vocabulary and remembering some words
>The irregular verbs are a bitch
>You VVILL sometimes mix up the Belgian accent with the Dutch accent
Just overall a fun language to learn and a side activity that every Zaryan should try. Also once you get to the B1 level the delen will start to sound natural (no shit award)

>>15326
Hey Zaryans.

I know we hate Duolingo, but I think I found a gemmy way to derive value out of it.

I've been doing lessons on it everyday and using it in synthesis with "Routledge Intensive Dutch" (You can find all material online).

I then opened a Chat GPT prompt and copy-pasted all the vocabulary I know and set strict parameters. I ask it to prompt me sentence in English to translate into Dutch because I want to practice my ability to create sentences from scratch, and one thing that I dislike about Duolingo is that it shows me the words so I don't actually know if I remember the word for something without first seeing the word.

If I make a grammatical mistake (which I usually do because I'm a DSL shitskin), it explains in depth, and if there is a concept I still don't understand, I can ask it to clarify further.

What do you guys think?

>>68506
Busuu's community exercises are also a good way for learning how to create sentences, also Dutch folk there can correct mistakes you make while attempting those, and tell you how to sound more natural.

>>68506
>it explains in depth, and if there is a concept I still don't understand, I can ask it to clarify further.
this is exactly how you are supposed to use it

>>68506
I still prefer sticking to Busuu since it actually scales correctly, but this is nice if you really want to go the extra mile

Bump because more Zaryans need to learn Dutch

bumping because i need a dutch translator

>>121459
use deepl

>>121460
do this, dutch is snca, especially to the dutch themselves

>>121460
how accurate is it doe like regarding grammar an shiee

>>121462
its better than google translate but not better than chatgpt which can actually pick up intonation and cultural nuance

>>121462
DeepL has fallen off completely, Gemini 3 Pro is actually superior in making coherent sentences that sound natural and not super literal while being "technically correct".

>>121461
Evendoe learning Dutch helps to learn German later on

>>121503
Germans won't use German while talking to you. They will use English. Another useless language.

>>121530
Yeah because English is the dominant language, while German isn't but it's not like Dutch which is spoken maybe by 5 million people

voor de nederlands