Ongezellig
IAZ and soft NAZ
ZWABAG
[Return] [Thread list] [Index] [Catalog] [Bottom] | Replies: 293 | Views: 4 | Currently viewing: 1
>>109589
(sorry, post again,)
but what would make Coco vulnerable. we do see that Coco doesn't like being called an orphan by Maya. so what would make Coco think of her parents (maybe the lighting strike). which then we can see how Maya would get closer to Coco.
(sorry, post again,)
but what would make Coco vulnerable. we do see that Coco doesn't like being called an orphan by Maya. so what would make Coco think of her parents (maybe the lighting strike). which then we can see how Maya would get closer to Coco.
>>109591
(sorry, post again,and sorry for spam I'm being a retard right now)
but what would make Coco vulnerable. we do see that Coco doesn't like being called an orphan by Maya. so what would make Coco think of her parents (maybe the lighting strike). which then we can see how Maya would get closer to Coco.
(sorry, post again,and sorry for spam I'm being a retard right now)
but what would make Coco vulnerable. we do see that Coco doesn't like being called an orphan by Maya. so what would make Coco think of her parents (maybe the lighting strike). which then we can see how Maya would get closer to Coco.
>>109580
There’s the rub. The central issue of how to make two broken people understand each other when the ways they are broken make even understanding the way the other is broken extremely difficult. Lots of fics use Maya reaching some kind of breaking point and having an outburst, which is not necessarily a terrible explanation, but it usually is done poorly. I think Maya seeing Coco when she is vulnerable would crack her image in Maya’s mind and can be a good place to start looking. How or why this would happen and what it would look like, I have no clue.
There’s the rub. The central issue of how to make two broken people understand each other when the ways they are broken make even understanding the way the other is broken extremely difficult. Lots of fics use Maya reaching some kind of breaking point and having an outburst, which is not necessarily a terrible explanation, but it usually is done poorly. I think Maya seeing Coco when she is vulnerable would crack her image in Maya’s mind and can be a good place to start looking. How or why this would happen and what it would look like, I have no clue.
>>109594
I’m a retard too I deleted the post and reposted it geg. Maybe Coco losing something, like a friend, would bring up her existential angst in a way that is not anger, and Maya could see it when it’s not pointed at her.
I’m a retard too I deleted the post and reposted it geg. Maybe Coco losing something, like a friend, would bring up her existential angst in a way that is not anger, and Maya could see it when it’s not pointed at her.
>>109595
but what would make Coco crack? I know it would properly do with her past.
but what would make Coco crack? I know it would properly do with her past.
>>109598
I meant more like a friend moving away, a bandmate maybe, and I don’t know if she has any family left to lose sadly unless Ravi, Soei, or Mymy is gonna be sacrificed for the sake of plot. I don’t think it even needs to be a substantial loss for it to affect Coco because of her relationship with loss, it could be trivial from Maya’s perspective which is why it might crack the princess image. Or maybe something Maya can relate to more, like what if Coco had a south african stuffed animal that was ruined somehow?
I meant more like a friend moving away, a bandmate maybe, and I don’t know if she has any family left to lose sadly unless Ravi, Soei, or Mymy is gonna be sacrificed for the sake of plot. I don’t think it even needs to be a substantial loss for it to affect Coco because of her relationship with loss, it could be trivial from Maya’s perspective which is why it might crack the princess image. Or maybe something Maya can relate to more, like what if Coco had a south african stuffed animal that was ruined somehow?
>>109599
from out of the band mates Yfke, Cleo, and Zoey. Yfke is the most likely to move away, properly back to Friesland. or maybe someone else but we don't know much about Coco's relations with the other classmates (I think)
and that South African Stuffed Animal could work depend how people would write.
also we do know a super tiny bit about one of the Schoppenboer sister Grandparents. but I don't see them dying since ravi and soei are in their 40s.
>>109600
I think it’s completely fair to write more for a character if you want to make them better friends with Coco in a fic, if you only stick to what is canon, then you couldn’t write anything new. The important thing is to keep new information grounded and have it be built off of what we DO know. We do know that Coco is friends to some extent with basically everyone in their class because Maya says not being Coco’s friend is an achievement.
I think it is Soei’s parents that run a store in the Mayamails because Maya says if she goes there during the party she will be getting unlimited spring rolls, but they don’t seem old enough to be dying of natural causes.
I think it’s completely fair to write more for a character if you want to make them better friends with Coco in a fic, if you only stick to what is canon, then you couldn’t write anything new. The important thing is to keep new information grounded and have it be built off of what we DO know. We do know that Coco is friends to some extent with basically everyone in their class because Maya says not being Coco’s friend is an achievement.
I think it is Soei’s parents that run a store in the Mayamails because Maya says if she goes there during the party she will be getting unlimited spring rolls, but they don’t seem old enough to be dying of natural causes.
>>109601
we don't know their dynamic, so we have make up our own (examples Koos, Wiel, Adam,) which, what we know about, we can write about it, since the 'stereotypes'(I think stereotype is the right word here but tell me if I'm worng) would be bases for the characters themselves so we. and we have to make new characters sometimes (like Yana from Onion dweller) but we like you said "make them grounded" so them would fit the world and won't be self-insert characters(which are really boring and cliché). I mean we need more teachers than just Ms. Vera. (since most schools have more than one teacher.(I know obvious))
and no member of the Schoppenboer family would die at any point it's still too early.(which I hope I made clear)
>>109602
I think your feeling towards how to flesh out the other characters’ dynamics, making it grounded, and avoiding self insert slop already puts you ahead of a great majority of the fic writers bro
I think your feeling towards how to flesh out the other characters’ dynamics, making it grounded, and avoiding self insert slop already puts you ahead of a great majority of the fic writers bro
>>109604
yeah, I see self-inserts as "I hate my nigger life" type stuff or stuff which is useless. we have plenty of character to use and since Massa wouldn't make more epsodes, it's up to us to make new Ongezellig content.
and thank you.
yeah, I see self-inserts as "I hate my nigger life" type stuff or stuff which is useless. we have plenty of character to use and since Massa wouldn't make more epsodes, it's up to us to make new Ongezellig content.
and thank you.
>>109537
It's the self insert of a dirtskin from Egypt, what do you think?
It's the self insert of a dirtskin from Egypt, what do you think?
>>109541
niggers be spazzing out over one line of dialogue that doesnt prove anything
niggers be spazzing out over one line of dialogue that doesnt prove anything
>>109563
if i were to write the ending i'd make it more about maya finding the first step to overcoming her problems, or i'd do a 180 and have her get worse. either way the ending needs to imply change, not go through the full process of it
if i were to write the ending i'd make it more about maya finding the first step to overcoming her problems, or i'd do a 180 and have her get worse. either way the ending needs to imply change, not go through the full process of it
>>109570
nigga the characters are overexaggerated, thats the point
nigga the characters are overexaggerated, thats the point
>>109586
Just did some more research, and wow, this raisin is pretty interesting.
Just did some more research, and wow, this raisin is pretty interesting.
>>109627
I agree that implying change works very well as an ending, because all we need to see is that Maya is now capable and wants to do it, and I assume this is how Massa would’ve ended it. In a fic this helps keep the scope limited and therefore she can be written more consistently. But the idea for Maya ending by getting worse is straight from satan.
I agree that implying change works very well as an ending, because all we need to see is that Maya is now capable and wants to do it, and I assume this is how Massa would’ve ended it. In a fic this helps keep the scope limited and therefore she can be written more consistently. But the idea for Maya ending by getting worse is straight from satan.
File:
1784505246604.png
(43.41 KB, 537x594, Coco-Frog.png)
>>109641
< But the idea for Maya ending by getting worse is straight from satan.
Hope, she doesn't go too far
< But the idea for Maya ending by getting worse is straight from satan.
Hope, she doesn't go too far
>>109626
Idk which line you mean specifically but I just don’t think there is any evidence Epke likes Maya from a 40 second interaction on the bus where she acts like a retard
Idk which line you mean specifically but I just don’t think there is any evidence Epke likes Maya from a 40 second interaction on the bus where she acts like a retard
File:
1784505246604.png
(93.90 KB, 498x352, truthnuke.png)
>>109643
(be nicer to Maya :( )
(be nicer to Maya :( )
>>109641
you might be right, but her story doesn't read conclusive to me. i can imagine her loneliness would either consume her like it already is or she'd gain a more realistic perspective, and have that be the start of her building some sort of life for herself, kind of like what watamote did. but she's too static for a traditionally bad or happy ending.
you might be right, but her story doesn't read conclusive to me. i can imagine her loneliness would either consume her like it already is or she'd gain a more realistic perspective, and have that be the start of her building some sort of life for herself, kind of like what watamote did. but she's too static for a traditionally bad or happy ending.
>>109644
I love Maya I’m not trying to be mean to her, but there is no reason Epke would walk away from that thinking Maya is anything but totally cringe.
I love Maya I’m not trying to be mean to her, but there is no reason Epke would walk away from that thinking Maya is anything but totally cringe.
>>109647
My thought is that if her loneliness is still consuming her, then her story really hasn’t been even partly resolved. She could become more like Zoey, where she remains quiet and introverted but no longer hates herself for it. But I agree a normal happy/bad ending doesn’t really make a ton of sense, and leaving it somewhat open is better.
My thought is that if her loneliness is still consuming her, then her story really hasn’t been even partly resolved. She could become more like Zoey, where she remains quiet and introverted but no longer hates herself for it. But I agree a normal happy/bad ending doesn’t really make a ton of sense, and leaving it somewhat open is better.
>>109648
no he'd think she's a based schizo autist cutie and make plans to go to rape city with her
no he'd think she's a based schizo autist cutie and make plans to go to rape city with her
File:
1784505246604.gif
(672.67 KB, 220x124, clapping-nostalgia-critic.gif)
>>109650
that's weird, but sort of true.
that's weird, but sort of true.
One challenge when writing someone like Maya getting better is the fact that, people in this mental state think that they are undeserving of love. When it’s given to them, they feel ashamed, like they shouldn’t have been loved because they don’t offer anything to anyone. Or any act of love is so foreign to them, it’s treated as hostile
>>109739
You can't simply write someone like Maya, you have to be a Maya or it'll come off as a grift by someone who has never endured those hardships. That's why Ongezellig can't be replicated but by the hand of Massa, and not even the present-day Sam, we need the incel sore loser who browsed imageboards Sam
You can't simply write someone like Maya, you have to be a Maya or it'll come off as a grift by someone who has never endured those hardships. That's why Ongezellig can't be replicated but by the hand of Massa, and not even the present-day Sam, we need the incel sore loser who browsed imageboards Sam
>>109757
>we need the incel sore loser who browsed imageboards Sam
Ongezellig was written by the married Sam though
>we need the incel sore loser who browsed imageboards Sam
Ongezellig was written by the married Sam though
>>109757
funny thing is, I kinda am like Maya (not kidding, I have mental issues that I really need to resolve GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG)
funny thing is, I kinda am like Maya (not kidding, I have mental issues that I really need to resolve GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG)
>>109542
>"mental disorders are so cute" niggers when its a 30 year old man attacking their neighbor because they think hes gonna kill them because he hallucinated aliens in his room telling him, and not a shy chick with a pink sketch book
>"mental disorders are so cute" niggers when its a 30 year old man attacking their neighbor because they think hes gonna kill them because he hallucinated aliens in his room telling him, and not a shy chick with a pink sketch book
File:
1784505246604.gif
(11.78 KB, 233x255, seriousu-hata.gif)
Mental disorders are actually jewish since (((they))) suffer from those the most
File:
1784505316163.mp4
(357.83 KB, 480x480, 1756561360967-1.mp4)
File:
1784505316163.jpeg
(45.87 KB, 618x547, IMG_20231017_214738_240.jpg)
File:
1784505316163.png
(269.04 KB, 2000x1868, GET HELP PLEASE.png)
File:
1784505316163.jpeg
(9.13 KB, 300x338, Chad-123012m394H.jpg)
>>109825
found a pic of je
found a pic of je
Post actions
[Return] [Thread list] [Index] [Catalog] [Top] | Replies: 293 | Views: 4 | Currently viewing: 1