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I feel like I've noticed something about Ongezellig that nobody has really brought attention to or talked about since its release.
People like to paint this picture that Maya is a mentally ill freak (ADD aka Autism Denial Disorder, Anxiety, Depression) amongst mentally healthy peers, when that isn't really the case.
For example, Coco may seem like a caring, loving, happy individual and well... she is, but have you noticed that she seems to desperately want validation from Maya? Coco stays suffocatingly close to her, and tries to include her in as many activities as she possibly can, in spite of Maya being ONGEZELLIG.
I believe that underneath her easygoing exterior she has a guilt complex and PTSD.
Guilt because of things that either weren't her fault or were the fault of Maya's parents (Maya lost her cat because of Coco's allergies and Maya didn't get the attention she so desperately needed to properly develop because Coco (and Mymy) received such a disproportionate amount of it), and PTSD because her parents met an untimely end.
As for Mymy, she's a sadomasochist with dissociative identity disorder.
She loves humiliating and teasing Maya (Mymy left her tied up and made fun of her like a selfish little fuck) (SADIST), and seems to intentionally get herself hurt (getting herself thwacked in the head by Vera with a bottle after trying to start a "schoolocaust" with a Nerf gun) (MASOCHIST).
She also clitty leaks if you mention her true ethnicity and reverts to speaking Japanese (DISSOCIATIVE IDENTITY DISORDER).
Consider the 'boers DIAGNOSED.
People like to paint this picture that Maya is a mentally ill freak (ADD aka Autism Denial Disorder, Anxiety, Depression) amongst mentally healthy peers, when that isn't really the case.
For example, Coco may seem like a caring, loving, happy individual and well... she is, but have you noticed that she seems to desperately want validation from Maya? Coco stays suffocatingly close to her, and tries to include her in as many activities as she possibly can, in spite of Maya being ONGEZELLIG.
I believe that underneath her easygoing exterior she has a guilt complex and PTSD.
Guilt because of things that either weren't her fault or were the fault of Maya's parents (Maya lost her cat because of Coco's allergies and Maya didn't get the attention she so desperately needed to properly develop because Coco (and Mymy) received such a disproportionate amount of it), and PTSD because her parents met an untimely end.
As for Mymy, she's a sadomasochist with dissociative identity disorder.
She loves humiliating and teasing Maya (Mymy left her tied up and made fun of her like a selfish little fuck) (SADIST), and seems to intentionally get herself hurt (getting herself thwacked in the head by Vera with a bottle after trying to start a "schoolocaust" with a Nerf gun) (MASOCHIST).
She also clitty leaks if you mention her true ethnicity and reverts to speaking Japanese (DISSOCIATIVE IDENTITY DISORDER).
Consider the 'boers DIAGNOSED.
It's super obvious that Coco has some underlying issues due to the loss of her parents but I never thought about Mymy possibly having DID
Great armchair diagnosis zaryan
Great armchair diagnosis zaryan
Maya and Coco are given reasons for their mental illnesses but is Mymy given a reason beyond just becoming obsessed with the Netherlands and escaping as a child?
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>>104914
Abusive sister
Abusive sister
>>104916
Oh that actually does make a lot of sense and explains why her sister is so desperate to find her out of guilt
Oh that actually does make a lot of sense and explains why her sister is so desperate to find her out of guilt
>>104908
Everyone already knew that but dankie for reminding us. I'll rewatch Ongezellig because of this post.
Everyone already knew that but dankie for reminding us. I'll rewatch Ongezellig because of this post.
>>104914
I consider the Dutch version of herself that she's invented to get away from home, an alternate personality, meant to DISSOCIATE herself from her "normal" one.
I consider the Dutch version of herself that she's invented to get away from home, an alternate personality, meant to DISSOCIATE herself from her "normal" one.
>>104921
I meant why she even felt the need to invent a new identity and get away in the first place doe. But the Eiko abuse explanation adds up.
I meant why she even felt the need to invent a new identity and get away in the first place doe. But the Eiko abuse explanation adds up.
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>>104924
Us true zaryans don't engage in or tolerate 'boer hate.
Us true zaryans don't engage in or tolerate 'boer hate.
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>NOOOOO DONT HECKIN INSULT MY FICTIONAL CHARACTERINOSS
You're onto something with Coco but Mymy being anything more than
>Larp
Would be a step far too big, she clearly has delusions of grandeur, but other than that she's mentally sound
>Larp
Would be a step far too big, she clearly has delusions of grandeur, but other than that she's mentally sound
>>104928
What's wrong with the claim of Coco having guilty complex and PTSD?
What's wrong with the claim of Coco having guilty complex and PTSD?
>>104930
Nothing, but I don't agree with Mymy's, it's too out there, might as well say that Ravi is actually white
Nothing, but I don't agree with Mymy's, it's too out there, might as well say that Ravi is actually white
>>104934
It's not too out there though, she wouldn't learn an entirely new language and escape to a different country if it was.
Something from her past (probably Eiko, and/or the stress of overbearing parents whose expectations of you are higher than anything you could realistically achieve) convinced her to create a Dutch personality and try to completely dissociate from whoever she was, represented by her dyed hair and contact lenses.
It's not too out there though, she wouldn't learn an entirely new language and escape to a different country if it was.
Something from her past (probably Eiko, and/or the stress of overbearing parents whose expectations of you are higher than anything you could realistically achieve) convinced her to create a Dutch personality and try to completely dissociate from whoever she was, represented by her dyed hair and contact lenses.
>>104951
ACKtually chud my master and BVLL massa said that she does it simply to escape her sister and that it's all a play and costume, it's all written in the geschiedenis
ACKtually chud my master and BVLL massa said that she does it simply to escape her sister and that it's all a play and costume, it's all written in the geschiedenis
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>>104908
Mymy has the clearest cut case of PDA autism ever. She literally ticks every box but people insist she must be some kind of disassociating megalomaniac just because she retreats into fantasy when under pressure
Mymy has the clearest cut case of PDA autism ever. She literally ticks every box but people insist she must be some kind of disassociating megalomaniac just because she retreats into fantasy when under pressure
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>mymy has obsessive behavior
>>104910
Mymy is actively playing a role, her Dutch side is part of a hyper-indulgent escapism-fueled roleplay, but it's clearly conscious. DID isn't just "playing the role of multiple people", with Mymy there's no indication of the other symptoms such as memory loss, age regression, change in skills/interests etc. In fact, her interests and personality seem extremely fixed. Her "Japanese side" is not an alter, that's her being reminded of a side of her she's trying to forget, in a non-dissociative way. She's just an autist at most.
Mymy is actively playing a role, her Dutch side is part of a hyper-indulgent escapism-fueled roleplay, but it's clearly conscious. DID isn't just "playing the role of multiple people", with Mymy there's no indication of the other symptoms such as memory loss, age regression, change in skills/interests etc. In fact, her interests and personality seem extremely fixed. Her "Japanese side" is not an alter, that's her being reminded of a side of her she's trying to forget, in a non-dissociative way. She's just an autist at most.
>>104916
not official art doe and even if it was it looks more like friendly teasing than abuse
not official art doe and even if it was it looks more like friendly teasing than abuse
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>>105031
Good catch, I wasn't aware of this.
>>105048
You WILL not question my knowledge on mental illnesses that I may or may not have.
>>105051
Fair enough, I would say it's debatable whether or not she has DID, though I don't think there's enough content to make a clear assertion.
>>105052
>Mymy after leaving Maya tied up and making fun of her for being a BelgianGOD
>Mymy after shooting Maya with nerf darts (THIS NEVER HAPPENED, TAKE YOUR MEDS).
>Mymy after Vera hit her in the head with a bottle.
She is though.
>>105053
Yet another thing that there isn't a lot of information on, I curse Massa for being a selfish little fuck.
Regardless, Eiko seems to be obsessive to the point of absurdity and I don't know if this is true but isn't it Eiko's plan to travel to the Netherlands and kidnap Mymy? Obsessed.
>Additional Mymy soyfacing at Coco displaying her brute strength.
Good catch, I wasn't aware of this.
>>105048
You WILL not question my knowledge on mental illnesses that I may or may not have.
>>105051
Fair enough, I would say it's debatable whether or not she has DID, though I don't think there's enough content to make a clear assertion.
>>105052
>Mymy after leaving Maya tied up and making fun of her for being a BelgianGOD
>Mymy after shooting Maya with nerf darts (THIS NEVER HAPPENED, TAKE YOUR MEDS).
>Mymy after Vera hit her in the head with a bottle.
She is though.
>>105053
Yet another thing that there isn't a lot of information on, I curse Massa for being a selfish little fuck.
Regardless, Eiko seems to be obsessive to the point of absurdity and I don't know if this is true but isn't it Eiko's plan to travel to the Netherlands and kidnap Mymy? Obsessed.
>Additional Mymy soyfacing at Coco displaying her brute strength.
>>105061
>I would say it's debatable whether or not she has DID, though I don't think there's enough content to make a clear assertion.
Trve, anyone can have DID, it's usually the most "normal" people that have it since in more than 90% of the cases it's covert. Your granny living next door might have it for all you know. But since we're going by stereotypes (and all 3 girls are some sort of stereotype), Mymy's doesn't even come close to the reality of the disorder. We don't know Mymy's past or what she's like outside of her screentime (bc she stops existing), but nothing points towards a dissociative identity disorder order than the incorrect and harmful idea that DID is this "drastic change of personality that lasts for 3 seconds and then disappears again" when called out by Vera. DID is more about the absence of a consistent personality than it is about "being multiple people". Source: retard with diagnosed DID.
>You WILL not question my knowledge on mental illnesses that I may or may not have.
If you care about accurate representation of the mental illness then don't play a part in having it mindlessly assigned to eccentric Dutch anime girls based on stereotypical ideas of the disorder
>I would say it's debatable whether or not she has DID, though I don't think there's enough content to make a clear assertion.
Trve, anyone can have DID, it's usually the most "normal" people that have it since in more than 90% of the cases it's covert. Your granny living next door might have it for all you know. But since we're going by stereotypes (and all 3 girls are some sort of stereotype), Mymy's doesn't even come close to the reality of the disorder. We don't know Mymy's past or what she's like outside of her screentime (bc she stops existing), but nothing points towards a dissociative identity disorder order than the incorrect and harmful idea that DID is this "drastic change of personality that lasts for 3 seconds and then disappears again" when called out by Vera. DID is more about the absence of a consistent personality than it is about "being multiple people". Source: retard with diagnosed DID.
>You WILL not question my knowledge on mental illnesses that I may or may not have.
If you care about accurate representation of the mental illness then don't play a part in having it mindlessly assigned to eccentric Dutch anime girls based on stereotypical ideas of the disorder
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>>105061
>>105031
PDA autism covers the Japsterdam thing much better than DID. Mymy doesn’t seem to switch in and out of it like we might expect, but rather fall back on it when things aren’t going her way.
She pretends to be a school shooter when told her presentation isn’t good enough, and uses role play to assert control over Vera by making sure she can do a presentation on Drenthe.
Picrel is from the NAS on PDA autism
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>>105062
I wasn't trying to say that DID is a momentary shift in personality, but Mymy's almost violent reaction when Vera brought attention to something that reminded of her past gave me the idea that she has some kind of childhood trauma, and reading up on DID itself, that's usually its origin (this is disputed though of zoiets).
>If you care about accurate representation of the mental illness then don't play a part in having it mindlessly assigned to eccentric Dutch anime girls based on stereotypical ideas of the disorder.
Well, break my heart into a million pieces why don't you?
This thread isn't meant to be a serious analysis on why the 'boers have these horrible mental disorders that ruin their life because I see intentionally being sad as counterproductive and stupid.
It's half an analysis (because I'm autistic) and half a joke (because I like to entertain people).
That's why I intermixed some soyspeak with my reasoning, but whatever, I'm sorry to have offended you.
>>105063
>NAS
Anyway, very good stuff, even with the reddit spacing.
I wasn't trying to say that DID is a momentary shift in personality, but Mymy's almost violent reaction when Vera brought attention to something that reminded of her past gave me the idea that she has some kind of childhood trauma, and reading up on DID itself, that's usually its origin (this is disputed though of zoiets).
>If you care about accurate representation of the mental illness then don't play a part in having it mindlessly assigned to eccentric Dutch anime girls based on stereotypical ideas of the disorder.
Well, break my heart into a million pieces why don't you?
This thread isn't meant to be a serious analysis on why the 'boers have these horrible mental disorders that ruin their life because I see intentionally being sad as counterproductive and stupid.
It's half an analysis (because I'm autistic) and half a joke (because I like to entertain people).
That's why I intermixed some soyspeak with my reasoning, but whatever, I'm sorry to have offended you.
>>105063
>NAS
Anyway, very good stuff, even with the reddit spacing.
>>105061
>Mymy after leaving Maya tied up and making fun of her for being a BelgianGOD
making fun of maya for being belgian is just teasing and part of mymy's obsession with the netherlands, and it can be assumed that mymy did help untie maya offscreen after the scene cuts
>Mymy after shooting Maya with nerf darts (THIS NEVER HAPPENED, TAKE YOUR MEDS).
i wouldn't say shooting maya with a toy nerf gun makes her a sadist
>Mymy after Vera hit her in the head with a bottle.
its very unlikely that mymy's goal was to be hit with the bottle, consider that she looks annoyed afterwards
>Mymy after leaving Maya tied up and making fun of her for being a BelgianGOD
making fun of maya for being belgian is just teasing and part of mymy's obsession with the netherlands, and it can be assumed that mymy did help untie maya offscreen after the scene cuts
>Mymy after shooting Maya with nerf darts (THIS NEVER HAPPENED, TAKE YOUR MEDS).
i wouldn't say shooting maya with a toy nerf gun makes her a sadist
>Mymy after Vera hit her in the head with a bottle.
its very unlikely that mymy's goal was to be hit with the bottle, consider that she looks annoyed afterwards
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>>105066
True, maybe I'm projecting a little, and most of this is a joke as you may have been able to ascertain.
I guess I just think it would be fitting for Mymy to have "sadomasochistic" tendencies, since she wants to be dictator of the Netherlands and also wants to enslave preschoolers.
True, maybe I'm projecting a little, and most of this is a joke as you may have been able to ascertain.
I guess I just think it would be fitting for Mymy to have "sadomasochistic" tendencies, since she wants to be dictator of the Netherlands and also wants to enslave preschoolers.
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>>105070
I meant the lighthearted stuff about tying Maya up and shooting her with nerf darts for being a Belg, as well as the Vera bottle thwack.
I meant the lighthearted stuff about tying Maya up and shooting her with nerf darts for being a Belg, as well as the Vera bottle thwack.
>>105069
she wants to enslave first year highschoolers, not preschoolers, big difference
she wants to enslave first year highschoolers, not preschoolers, big difference
>>105069
I think Dutch secondary school starts at like 12 so first years would be like 7th graders
I think Dutch secondary school starts at like 12 so first years would be like 7th graders
>>105076
Something something dutch schools go from year one elementary to highschool all in one building
Something something dutch schools go from year one elementary to highschool all in one building
>>105076
Sorry, I didn't remember that correctly, it's been awhile since I've watched 'zellig.
Sorry, I didn't remember that correctly, it's been awhile since I've watched 'zellig.
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>>105029
boob you ignored my high quality post but stickied this one!? FUCCK YOU I HATE YOU!!!!!!!!11!!!!
boob you ignored my high quality post but stickied this one!? FUCCK YOU I HATE YOU!!!!!!!!11!!!!
>>105086
YOU KNOW THE FUCKING ONE YOU FUYCKING NIGGER FUCCKY YOU I HOPE YUO FUCKING DIE YOU FUCCKING FUCCK!!1!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU KNOW THE FUCKING ONE YOU FUYCKING NIGGER FUCCKY YOU I HOPE YUO FUCKING DIE YOU FUCCKING FUCCK!!1!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>105091
ok boobert i will try
ok boobert i will try
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