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Soy culture can only thrive in a world where anything deemed Right-Wing is frowned upon, and specifically a world dominated by Far-Left ideals and post (judeo) modernist takes. While our world is definitely not a Right Wing paradise, it's also not the same world we knew a year ago.
So what happens when the world moves on, but the culture that was specifically crafted for the old one doesn't?
Easy, it gets rewritten or outright dies. In the case of soy culture, it also depends on the changes of the Internet, and the inherent centralization that X the heckin' everything app is providing, which leads to a bit of contradiction.
How did soy culture become popular on Twitter if it grew up in completely hostile places?
YouTube would be an example, it's incredibly rulecucked but most of the pillars of soy culture are archived there. The answer is that soy culture, real soy culture can only exist in a semi-obscure state. Soy culture was never meant to be mass-appealing (just enough to make the 4trooners seethe) since the masses were, well, soyboys. And yet here we are, all because Twitter is now the Right-Wing site, and soy culture is distinctly RW. There are currently more people who know soy culture on the wider Internet than actual users of the street (formerly 'party).
An app like X is everything an imageboard wants to be: easily accessible, multitude of topics and a fairly free sense of speech. It's not perfect but it doesn't need to be, as long as it's designed as an everyday app, it has notifications, accounts, etc. It even outcompetes Reddit.
You have seen it with 4cuck, X rolled around and every 4cucker who hated da social medias and zoomers soon found himself on X. And it has happened to soy sites too. I could bet a thousand dollars that (You), the person reading this thread also has a Twitter account.
>What does it mean then?
That soy culture becomes subservient to a social media.
>And is it bad?
Why would anyone use obscure imageboard forums if X provides the same thing but with shiny blue bubbles that tell you when someone replied to you.
But here comes the catch: vibes and feels. The Twitter users KNOW that they're not the real deal so they find themselves in this delusion where they keep browsing the their curated goy app but also want to feel part of the group, and since those people outnumber natives 10:1 it becomes easy to explain things such as the decadence of gem and coal, in favour of aryan or troonslop, why now every 'jak that has to mock someone is brown, purity spirals etc.
It can be excused to an extent for us since we have an entire community that we interact with, on multiple sites, but the Streety? Why would the Streety ever do that?
In fact it doesn't willingly but because of a mix of factors I've listed before.
Soy culture can't move on (slopjaks would be a great example) > soy culture gets cherrypicked by the increasing masses of RW normalfags > displacement begins and so on and on
Just think of the latest additions to soy culture: gigachads riding a fly, total NAS and giga was already squeezed out by 2021, hunky twink sex machine, it's just a jartycuck but since they don't have anyone to blame but themselves it is a thing now. In the entire year of 2025, this is what soy culture produced, NAS and some FOTM self-loathing image.
So how could this change?
It probably won't but as long as Twitter.com exists, things will get worse, until you'll see the aging 'party screencap Twitter threads not in an attempt to mock the wholesome tranny who made the post, but to share it with your SoyTwittersisters and comment upon the latest Twitter Drama.
Not like the Internet will keep existing in the format we know in a year or two geg
TSMT imageboards are a dying breed. pretty soon there wont be any truly alive ones. they may have decent PPH but they wont be producing anything original. this has already happened to the sharty while there may be new stuff like Five Nights At Cobson and HTSM they are still just riffs on tired old jokes. these issues can be remedied but only by well thought out imageboards being made and having good posts being made on them. but who knows i might just be a doomer whining over SNCA
The greatest complain I hear these days is that the internet is boring, in fact I only find myself coming here to be creative in my edits and posts, or just game the entire day, there's not much to do on the Internet and the Digital Safety Act isn't exactly inspiring confidence
Absolute gem of an observation. Explains the immigrants and how nusoicacas lost the true meaning and purpose of 'jakking.
I would place it for convenience around when Frootcord got fully leaked, that's when most of the natives left for good and never came back
Bad news, Lebowski, it's time to pay me my money
So, I guess, Musk's purchasing of Twitter also mattered in this question. You know, exactly after Musk did that, Twitter started to become more and more RW over time. Most offsite (people not acquainted with the imageboard culture) rightoids were happy about this however.
Nobody cares about Twitter, actually. It's just an IB analogue for normies, basically. And no one became RW after the purchasing, though. Twitter just got flooded with RW chudcels from different places and barely changed the opinion of the core audience that existed in the app before 2022. The first just replaced the last. A usual scenario, honestly speaking.
Hit the nail on the head. Once the esoteric memes become widely spread they stop being funny. Our little autist spaces die with exposure, this is in part why I've always been against shilling campaigns even when people say "but we'll be shilling to chuds bro! They're like us or something!"
>I could bet a thousand dollars that (You), the person reading this thread also has a Twitter account.
You'd lose that bet, but only because I make a concentrated effort to avoid social media out of autism. However the sentiment is right. Convenience killed the internet, the convenience of these mega-apps and community-hubs like reddit or shitter, and most notoriously discord has been killing the niche of imageboards and forums.
Tsmt. Most of the xitterfags aren't even adults, how could they vote and so on geg
Twitter was the only social media that had influence on the real world. Politicians, journalists etc. everyone had an account there. No other platform could really compare to it. Blue checkmarks were a status symbol that Musk managed to remove with a snap of fingers. There was enormous leakage at that and Bluesky was extremely astroturfed for some time to serve as an alternative but it failed and is now known as a containment zone for mentally deranged leftists. Normalfags don't use is, having a Bluesky account now is a political declaration while having a Twitter account was just what people online did, like using Facebook earlier, it was the default. I'm not saying that X will save the world like the other guy does, but Musk buying it was purely beneficial with zero downsides, even if he simply deleted it immediately after the purchase it would be better than doing nothing.
trve, xhe should have deleted it though.
xhe also should have bought discord and deleted it.
As you all know there have been attempts at making fun of the nu RW males, called "mullets".
So why isn't the mullet taking off? It's a fresh variant that makes fun of the new archetype which actually exists, how could it not?
Simple, it hasn't been around for long enough.
Do you remember why soyboys were soyquoted in the first place?
Because they were annoying, and why they were annoying?
Because they were everywhere, and have constantly been pushing against the global psyche for years at that point.
Mullets or soy RW hasn't been long around enough to fully establish itself as a mocking archetype, so whenever you DO attempt so soyquote a mullet, you end up having a hard time, don't you?
And this puts the culture in a risky position, a fight against time. Only if it (we) survive long enough we'll see the new archetype rise and fall, but until then, our best bet is to stick together and engage in our little hobby
This is true but it just ties back to the centralization of the Internet. Since everyone is on the same big hugbox you're bound to see, well everyone, and that includes browns (which also happen to be the 99% majority of pedophiles/lolipedos). One thing I didn't talk about is the centrality of American politics into soy culture. That's where the soy ideology came from after all, and right now there's a big discussion over whether or not browns/jeets/niggers should even stay in the US, with the cuckservative goyim saying that being American is just a le heckin' idea and the chudcels trying to enact TND or whatever. So mocking brown archetypes such as meximutt or mocking various digital groups with slopjaks in this eternal one-upping game of who can make the coaliest drawing, it finds a lot of room to grow and go off the rails.
I even say it has to do with the fact most of the nusois are as terminally online as the people they're mocking, so why would they know about white libtard archetypes if they don't go outside enough to see them?
the format of an imageboard has real problems by design. I think that the absence of accounts sort of hurts any community and destroys stabilit.
>BU MA HECKIN ANONIMITY!!1!1!öÖöööÖÖÖöÖö
The whole "focus on anonymity" culture (which started to get absurd when doxxingliterallywhosmaxxing got popular with doll on /raid/) has hurt it more than it has helped. i think thats the main reason why people started to slowly move onto mainstream social medias, where you could identify with other individuals and make friends more easily, without the fear of being criticized for sharing basic info that wont hurt you or being doxxed for supporting PND instead of TND by fernando rusoterra from Mexico, because you hurt his arbitrary and unjustifiable moral claims. I also use other forms of social media to talk to friends that i know from this sphere, simply because IBs are limited in this regard.
>inb4 you want cordlig.reddit then
i just want a stronger community where i can recognize somebody, without the need of memorizing every possible way that they might express themself in a text format. Boorus are an interesting form of IBs, but they are more designed to store content in a specific way and are not good for forum interaction (plus also have anon posting). It would also be cool if VPNs and especially Tor werent such a big problem, which in the near future might be real useful, provided internet access in general wont be restricted to digital IDs
Speaking of, it doesnt help the fact that moderation only has IPs, VPNs etc to identify individuals and stop bad actors from interacting with the site (if we ignore bots, which can be dealt with using hash banning and other methods and arent strictly tied to ips). Basically some levels of datamining are encouraged and stuff like tor is disabled afaik (since it would be absolute hell to deal with).
>>18286
>the format of an imageboard has real problems by design. I think that the absence of accounts sort of hurts any community and destroys stabilit.
>>BU MA HECKIN ANONIMITY!!1!1!öÖöööÖÖÖöÖö
>The whole "focus on anonymity" culture (which started to get absurd when doxxingliterallywhosmaxxing got popular with doll on /raid/) has hurt it more than it has helped. i think thats the main reason why people started to slowly move onto mainstream social medias, where you could identify with other individuals and make friends more easily, without the fear of being criticized for sharing basic info that wont hurt you or being doxxed for supporting PND instead of TND by fernando rusoterra from Mexico, because you hurt his arbitrary and unjustifiable moral claims. I also use other forms of social media to talk to friends that i know from this sphere, simply because IBs are limited in this regard.
>>inb4 you want cordlig.reddit then
>i just want a stronger community where i can recognize somebody, without the need of memorizing every possible way that they might express themself in a text format. Boorus are an interesting form of IBs, but they are more designed to store content in a specific way and are not good for forum interaction (plus also have anon posting). It would also be cool if VPNs and especially Tor werent such a big problem, which in the near future might be real useful, provided internet access in general wont be restricted to digital IDs
>Speaking of, it doesnt help the fact that moderation only has IPs, VPNs etc to identify individuals and stop bad actors from interacting with the site (if we ignore bots, which can be dealt with using hash banning and other methods and arent strictly tied to ips). Basically some levels of datamining are encouraged and stuff like tor is disabled afaik (since it would be absolute hell to deal with).
Sounds like you just don't like the anonymous format. Personally I like full anonymity. To me it seems to create a more coherent whole instead of dividing it into cliques and attentionwhores like 'cord.
>>18291
I am, thank you. Had a bit of a struggle with finding a job for a while but that has been dealt with.
>>18290
I look like this and say this
>>18297
>Sounds like you just don't like the anonymous format.
i have been enough time on these places (almost 3 years) to know the problems.
>Personally I like full anonymity
besides having some contradicting problems, i think it has its charm but...
>To me it seems to create a more coherent whole instead of dividing it into cliques and attentionwhores like 'cord.
Division is just as likely, if not more likely, to happen in an anon environment. the sharty still had division problems (kuz and the jarty; doll and his board isolation policies + early removal of 5 board plan mentality + early attraction of migrants and change of sharty culture + red acting like a retard and doll not giving a crap; froot and his 50 board experiment + all the other crap he did etc.), which got worse and worse as time went by. it does not help the fact that a tiny vocal minority (either the mods themselves or a few laymen) can appear much larger than it is to the average joe shmoe and can enact sheep mentality strategies.
Also "attentionwhores" still appear here and have appeared for a good while. They even successfully live rent free in people's heads. They can save the housing problem in many countries by showing us their tricks! You also have the "notsoattentionwhores" who everybody likes/has no problem with, because they make cool stuff.
Basically IBs are handicapped cord servers and i think that strictly sticking to some features will continue to hurt us. There are other factors that play into creating a "coherent whole" and trying to not have identification (which will always exist and is presupposed when interacting with a community made of individuals) is not one of them.
I agree, but I've been around long enough to hear this exact argument about halfchan, so much potential, and so much potential to divide and conquer. Falseflags are just as normal here as the fact rain falls from the sky, it's an intrinsic fact of the imageboard format. It has its up and downs but the other options are not better either
When I said division I didn't mean any sort of division, but specifically cliques. Division happens but it's division among the lines of ideas rather than reputation or acquaintance. The anonymous environment also limits these divisions (you may call someone a nigger in one thread but have a good time with him in another) so exclusion isn't as widespread. There's other things I like about it like how it encourages honesty but that's neither here nor there.
>Basically IBs are handicapped cord servers
Kys albeit
>>18312
>specifically cliques
i may have misunderstood, can you elaborate by what you mean exactly?
>it's division among the lines of ideas rather than reputation or acquaintance
reputation is also a part of it. certain groups have a reputation for something (for example frogs for being nofunallowedcacas). acquaintance is when the cord server gets leaked.
>The anonymous environment also limits these divisions
the fact that we had a period of splinters shows otherwise. there are other factors that play as to how connected a community is.
>how it encourages honesty
thats not exclusive to IBs DOE (i also see some do nasty stuff, just because they are anons and nobody will connect their works to them irl)
>Kys albeit
I have spoken the truth. KNEEL BEFORE ME!
>>18304
> It has its up and downs but the other options are not better either
Perhaps you are right. Im just interested in other formats of forums and how they might play out. My idea isnt really complete removal of anonymity, but simply seeing if removing some features would fix a few contradictions. But we shall see how it goes.
Have this site redirect to soyjak.st/qa/ at this point, features like replies working and the quick reply box still have yet to work here several years later
they work fine for me. if you experience problems, share them on /q/ in the dev suggestion thread (its pined). he is a bit busy rn with either irl stuff or soruum so idk if he will respond asap
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