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>>4603
>it's easier to have a blanket ban than to have to comb through for 'p all the time
that’s not how that works. he’ll post at most three Ongezellig drawings in a day. the mods don’t have to “comb through” anything.
>>4606
all the mods have to do is just say “this guy posts a lot of nsfw stuff. if you see it, don’t repost it here”. banning someone’s ENTIRE body of work because he did something wrong is nothing short of draconian censorship. it’s especially egregious on a site like this which is known for allowing edgier content in the Ongezellig community, and yet you’re not allowed to post some guy’s work because “he did a heckin bad thing”.
>it's easier to have a blanket ban than to have to comb through for 'p all the time
that’s not how that works. he’ll post at most three Ongezellig drawings in a day. the mods don’t have to “comb through” anything.
>>4606
all the mods have to do is just say “this guy posts a lot of nsfw stuff. if you see it, don’t repost it here”. banning someone’s ENTIRE body of work because he did something wrong is nothing short of draconian censorship. it’s especially egregious on a site like this which is known for allowing edgier content in the Ongezellig community, and yet you’re not allowed to post some guy’s work because “he did a heckin bad thing”.
Why you zaryans still praise that pedophile? Just stop it already.
>>4638
because he makes good art. morality isn’t a factor in determining the quality of someone’s work.
because he makes good art. morality isn’t a factor in determining the quality of someone’s work.
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>>4638
because they crank their twps to his works or want his posts to work as epi gateway
<NO, YOU CAN'T BAN MY FAVOURITE PEDO ARTIST, WHAT WILL I GOO-ACKKK!!!!
because they crank their twps to his works or want his posts to work as epi gateway
<NO, YOU CAN'T BAN MY FAVOURITE PEDO ARTIST, WHAT WILL I GOO-ACKKK!!!!
>>4640
Sometimes artists can incorporate their ideologies or morals into their artwork doebeit.
Sometimes artists can incorporate their ideologies or morals into their artwork doebeit.
>>4648
that still doesn’t diminish the quality of said work. lefties can agree that Triumph of the Will is a good movie despite its messaging. misogynistic dudebros and incels still enjoy American Psycho despite it being a feminist film.
that still doesn’t diminish the quality of said work. lefties can agree that Triumph of the Will is a good movie despite its messaging. misogynistic dudebros and incels still enjoy American Psycho despite it being a feminist film.
>>4636
sorry xis, but we were called pedos on the farty by nusoicacas and that collectively traumatized us so we have to overcompensate with a puritan shtick
sorry xis, but we were called pedos on the farty by nusoicacas and that collectively traumatized us so we have to overcompensate with a puritan shtick
>not wanting to continue a pedophiles legacy is overcompensation.
Grim is a part of zellig history, let him remain in the past, no need to bring him into the present anymore
Grim is a part of zellig history, let him remain in the past, no need to bring him into the present anymore
>>4655
Because I don't want to associate with a pedophile, this isn't like associating with chuds or political extremists, we're talking about someone who actually drew PORN of a TODDLER. Anyone who thinks otherwise can kindly go to hell and get hanged from his feet
Because I don't want to associate with a pedophile, this isn't like associating with chuds or political extremists, we're talking about someone who actually drew PORN of a TODDLER. Anyone who thinks otherwise can kindly go to hell and get hanged from his feet
>>4655
Holy fucking JEW you want us to look past the amount of unhinged 'p xhe drew of the sisters? You get off from his recent drawing of agugu you retard??
Holy fucking JEW you want us to look past the amount of unhinged 'p xhe drew of the sisters? You get off from his recent drawing of agugu you retard??
>>4673
>you want us to look past the amount of unhinged 'p xhe drew of the sisters?
yes, that’s what we had always done until this week, look: >>>/chive/745
his nsfw art will take away from the quality of his other art. you can like the art and dislike the artist.
>you want us to look past the amount of unhinged 'p xhe drew of the sisters?
yes, that’s what we had always done until this week, look: >>>/chive/745
his nsfw art will take away from the quality of his other art. you can like the art and dislike the artist.
>>4675
drawing actually genuine cp is a step to far to simply ignore
drawing actually genuine cp is a step to far to simply ignore
>>4675
that crap could be ignored to a certain degree, but raping a baby was simply too much
that crap could be ignored to a certain degree, but raping a baby was simply too much
>>4675
What were you lot zelliggers thinking back then?! More known drawags have been sacked for far less than that, just look at fucking yos-
>Every drawfag drama devolves into yosack drama
Nvm
What were you lot zelliggers thinking back then?! More known drawags have been sacked for far less than that, just look at fucking yos-
>Every drawfag drama devolves into yosack drama
Nvm
I blame agugufags for the recent developments. They LITERALLY asked for it. Ban agugu.
>>4680
>BAAAAAN EVERYTHING
no fuck that, you solve the problem by not making it a problem, which seems counterintuitive but it works trust me
>BAAAAAN EVERYTHING
no fuck that, you solve the problem by not making it a problem, which seems counterintuitive but it works trust me
>>4681
If we followed this logic impjak should be banned because once some 'cord embedded 'p in an imp video
If we followed this logic impjak should be banned because once some 'cord embedded 'p in an imp video
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>>4636
>it’s especially egregious on a site like this which is known for allowing edgier content
this site was SFW from the start. Nazi stuff represents the userbase's real values and beliefs, not just a nihilistic attempt to shock and offend. schoolocaust was a once off seeing as it was suggested by the cartoon, violence seems like a grey area in the rules
>it’s especially egregious on a site like this which is known for allowing edgier content
this site was SFW from the start. Nazi stuff represents the userbase's real values and beliefs, not just a nihilistic attempt to shock and offend. schoolocaust was a once off seeing as it was suggested by the cartoon, violence seems like a grey area in the rules
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>Nazi stuff represents the userbase's real values and beliefs
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>>4685
Ev&doe i'm here and nazi ideals goes against my main belief but i still make nazi ocs
Ev&doe i'm here and nazi ideals goes against my main belief but i still make nazi ocs
>>4694
But you ought to have some chuddy ideals right? Even if they aren't specifically those of the nazis, you're a chud and nazism is a symbol we use, not because we agree with everything they thought but because these symbols set us apart in a bold manner.
But you ought to have some chuddy ideals right? Even if they aren't specifically those of the nazis, you're a chud and nazism is a symbol we use, not because we agree with everything they thought but because these symbols set us apart in a bold manner.
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>>4699
I'm not a chud nor that right-winging, i'm a centrist though so I do believe in stuff like nationalism or tradition. But my main ideals are on objectivism, the unchanging trvth and fact.
I'm not a chud nor that right-winging, i'm a centrist though so I do believe in stuff like nationalism or tradition. But my main ideals are on objectivism, the unchanging trvth and fact.
>>4685
>Nazi stuff represents the userbase's real values and beliefs
>we zaryans are rw xitter tourists lol
>Nazi stuff represents the userbase's real values and beliefs
>we zaryans are rw xitter tourists lol
>>4704
even if you aren't very right wing, you shouldn't appreciate the jews regardless, objectively they do a lot of fucked up stuff that's ruining our nations and traditions.
even if you aren't very right wing, you shouldn't appreciate the jews regardless, objectively they do a lot of fucked up stuff that's ruining our nations and traditions.
>>4704
Centristfag fence-sitter award. Pick an ideology and stick with it, not just side with who you think's winning.
Centristfag fence-sitter award. Pick an ideology and stick with it, not just side with who you think's winning.
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>>4747
I don't side with the winning side because they rely on manipulation of clueless people to spread their misguided and or biased ideologies and morals. I pick objectivism over everything else, a person's ideology can change overtime depending on how they experience the world and I don't want to be put lumped into just one group of people.
I guess I say I'm a centrist as in I don't identify with either side as I believe that we should all try to find the objective, unchanging trvth about something rather than staying dormant in our ideologies, which will lead to more needless discourse.
I don't side with the winning side because they rely on manipulation of clueless people to spread their misguided and or biased ideologies and morals. I pick objectivism over everything else, a person's ideology can change overtime depending on how they experience the world and I don't want to be put lumped into just one group of people.
I guess I say I'm a centrist as in I don't identify with either side as I believe that we should all try to find the objective, unchanging trvth about something rather than staying dormant in our ideologies, which will lead to more needless discourse.
>>4748
Ideologies are about preferences not facts, but otherwise they are complete snca that only autistic teenagers obsess about. Never read anything ideological or political in your life, learn actually useful skills instead.
Ideologies are about preferences not facts, but otherwise they are complete snca that only autistic teenagers obsess about. Never read anything ideological or political in your life, learn actually useful skills instead.
>>4748
>rely on manipulation of clueless people to spread their misguided and or biased ideologies and morals.
Just say Jews, no need to skate around it.
>I guess I say I'm a centrist as in I don't identify with either side as I believe that we should all try to find the objective, unchanging trvth about something rather than staying dormant in our ideologies, which will lead to more needless discourse.
Let me tell you something. Do you want the truth? Guess what, you'll never get it. Remember, the only truth is what the winning (or most popular) faction has to say, not what happened. The truth changes all the time, depending on who you ask. So my question is, how do you suggest we find the truth if everyone has their version of it, and it can seldom be agreed upon? Your truth differs from mine, as does everyone else.
>rely on manipulation of clueless people to spread their misguided and or biased ideologies and morals.
Just say Jews, no need to skate around it.
>I guess I say I'm a centrist as in I don't identify with either side as I believe that we should all try to find the objective, unchanging trvth about something rather than staying dormant in our ideologies, which will lead to more needless discourse.
Let me tell you something. Do you want the truth? Guess what, you'll never get it. Remember, the only truth is what the winning (or most popular) faction has to say, not what happened. The truth changes all the time, depending on who you ask. So my question is, how do you suggest we find the truth if everyone has their version of it, and it can seldom be agreed upon? Your truth differs from mine, as does everyone else.
>>4750
I'm not him, but one thing is there is one universal truthful origin, that being God, however in this mortal realm we are unable to reach the truth, perhaps get a very close approximation but not truth, and that's just talking about very simple stuff like the laws and workings of the universe, anything that has the even slightest degree of a social element to it is too clouded to easily declare truth. The best thing we can do is agree upon what is false, but that is subject to politics too.
Functionally, something is said to be true if it benefits the actor who declares it true in some way; material, spiritual, psychological.
I'm not him, but one thing is there is one universal truthful origin, that being God, however in this mortal realm we are unable to reach the truth, perhaps get a very close approximation but not truth, and that's just talking about very simple stuff like the laws and workings of the universe, anything that has the even slightest degree of a social element to it is too clouded to easily declare truth. The best thing we can do is agree upon what is false, but that is subject to politics too.
Functionally, something is said to be true if it benefits the actor who declares it true in some way; material, spiritual, psychological.
>>4751
Allah does know the truth- that is true, and Allah shows mankind the truth, as does the Christian God, through scripture, it is up to us to seek it out. But, isn't religion inherently political, or is it just something political parties use to gain more support?
Allah does know the truth- that is true, and Allah shows mankind the truth, as does the Christian God, through scripture, it is up to us to seek it out. But, isn't religion inherently political, or is it just something political parties use to gain more support?
>>4752
Which is why I say there can be a close approximation, but not fully as things are dependent on fundamentally subjective creatures, humans
Which is why I say there can be a close approximation, but not fully as things are dependent on fundamentally subjective creatures, humans
>>4753
Yes, a man can't know the full, divine trvth. Ok, I understand where you're coming from. You aren't a centrist, you see what politics for what they are, a world affair, not one of the divine, but of mankind.
Yes, a man can't know the full, divine trvth. Ok, I understand where you're coming from. You aren't a centrist, you see what politics for what they are, a world affair, not one of the divine, but of mankind.
>>4755
What now? I've never had a debate where we ended up agreeing.
What now? I've never had a debate where we ended up agreeing.
>>4756
We never had a debate, I'm not the centrist, I just put my own input on the subject.
We never had a debate, I'm not the centrist, I just put my own input on the subject.
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>>4671
this is the same justification leftists use when tearing down statues of historical figures, and i don’t most people here agree with that kind of behavior.
Grim’s work has been celebrated since almost the beginning of this site. i think he’s in the top three greatest Ongezellig fan artists, possibly even number one. his work has inspired a few other artists too. no amount of “immoral drawings” will ever take away from that.
this is the same justification leftists use when tearing down statues of historical figures, and i don’t most people here agree with that kind of behavior.
Grim’s work has been celebrated since almost the beginning of this site. i think he’s in the top three greatest Ongezellig fan artists, possibly even number one. his work has inspired a few other artists too. no amount of “immoral drawings” will ever take away from that.
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>NOOOOOOOOO NOT MY FAVOURITE 'P ARTIST NOOOOO YOU CAN'T DO THIS YOU HAVE TO KEEP ASSOCIAT-ACKKKKK!!!!
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