/zellig/ - Ongezellig

TRVKE, MYMY WON

>>85654
this guy gets it, finally

>starts off by wailing about modern society being 'soulless'
>fails to notice coco's kindness is a mask for her psychopathy
>praises mymy
>"ITS DA JOOOOOOOSSSS"
4cuck /pol/ is down the hall and to the left.

>There is nothing redeemable in her character
except everything.

>>85660
omg… she is so beautiful… Maya WABAG…

>>85661
tsmt

>>85660
SISASASASASASAS

>>85660
I would love to wrap my arms around Maya really really tightly yet gently and have her hug me back with those delicate arms knowing that she's safe and protected in my embrace… I would give her all the love she didn't get much before and I would make her feel so warm and nice. I would make her know that there's someone who loves her, takes care of her and wants to spend his whole life with her…

>>85682
TSMT TSMT

>>85682
aryan dreams

mayacopes itt pretendint maya isn't just a collection of negative traits

>>85686
Maya is sweet, shy, cute, kind and beautiful

>>85687
All fact checked by Snopes, all false.

>>85686
every human being on planet earth is a collection of negative traits to a certain extent,
it's just that the ratio of those negative and positive traits varies from person to person.
maya is not purely negative, and it's not her fault that she was born mentally atypical and not given the help she obviously needed before she grew into the pained, lonely, but passionate soul she is now.
>Maya is sweet, shy, cute, kind and beautiful
<All fact checked by Snopes, all false.

>>85690
Even&doe that mentally atypical bullshit is just an excuse not to do better, and depression is a mindset. She shows nothing but negative traits in the show, going so far as to be rude to Coco when she trys to help. Maya is a whiney bitch who doesn't even have it that bad, and acts like sour cunt when people try to help, only digging her hole deeper.

>>85687
>sweet
not really
>shy
Socially inept*
>kind
unsubstantiated
>cute
>beautiful
unwashed and anorexic, but go figure mayagooners have their priorities straight

>>85694
>depression is a mindset
has never been depressed in his life award.
she literally has a problem concentrating, that's kind of an issue if you want to function normally as a human being, that isn't an excuse you retard that's a reason.
her "not having that bad" is simply wrong and just a matter of perspective, for her it IS bad because when you're stuck as a hermit due to your inherent behavior and mental issues that is pretty bad, and even if you do get to goon all day living under a roof, that shit can only make you feel better temporarily, and not even for that long.
you don't have these problems, and if you do, i can only really think that you're just self loathing and hate what you see in the mirror.
if she is a parallel to problems you suffer from in real life, the correct response isn't to respond with hate, but rather trying to understand problems and what causes them.
>>85696
>>sweet
>not really
this is true to some extent, but maya is only vaguely hostile to her sisters, and it's not unjustified for her to be that way.
mymy doesn't like her or care about her.
coco is a source of jealousy for maya, and to make it worse, coco sometimes engages in very smug behavior when it comes to her athleticism and popularity. (second picrel)
i'm sure coco isn't malicious, but if you were maya you would absolutely hate her.
>>shy
>Socially inept*
she is both you retard.
>>kind
>unsubstantiated
you can't substantiate how kind you are if you're never allowed to talk to people due to issues outside of your control
>>cute
>>beautiful
>unwashed and anorexic, but go figure mayagooners have their priorities straight
irrelevant, these two issues can be easily solved if you actually care about her, they wouldn't effect her beauty unless they reached a point of absurdity, which they obviously haven't.

>>85699
you still failed to give a good reason to like maya, you're merely trying to justify her faults. This is because there's nothing inherently likeable about maya, the only reason for anyone to like her is to find her relatable. That's why the only people that like maya are gooners and losers. She is loserbait and you betray your own character by liking her.

>>85699
>(second picrel)
thats NOT canon stupid nigger

>>85699
I am a self-loathing and do hate what I see in the mirror, but I also know I have to get through the hate and keep my shit together, or else my life will fall apart. Maya, on the other hand, marinates in her own self pity, and gets pissy when she sees others do better than her, because SHE'S a jealous cunt, who hates herself, and projects that hatred onto others unjustly, just like I do. I know what Mayas problems are and how to fix them, because I have them (albeit she is a foid, and foids are biologically more emotional than males o algo).

>>85700
what good reasons are there to like the other 'zellig girls other than the most superficial ones that you've completely made up?
coco is desperate for attention and validation so she's created a persona of perfection that she very often uses to exercise superiority over the easy target of her sister whom she stole all that attention from when she was first adopted.
mymy is an unstable, egotistical megalomaniac, so ashamed with her heritage and ethnicity that she's living the life of a nonexistent "dutch" girl because she can't bear to be what she actually is.
maya may not be perfect but at least she's honest.
>>85701
who gives a fuck, she acts the same way in the deels.
she goes out of her way to include maya into things because… "i know you don't have friends."
what is okay about that?
doesn't that seem kind of messed up?
why does she not simply say "because i want to hang out with you." ?
is that a good thing to do to your sister that's going through a terrible moment in her life? especially after slowly but surely taking everything from her after you were adopted? i.e. care, attention, and her beloved pet cat (because muh hecking allergies we need to IMMEDIATELY get rid of your cat).
>>85702
maya does not wallow in self-pity, or do any of the things you say she does, at most she's jealous of coco.
is it really wrong for her to keep to herself?
what guidance has she ever gotten?
you're all just cursing someone who never even got a chance at a real life.
you all disgust me.

Gemoid thread

>>85705
fuck you

>>85703
How is Coco fake? Is it wrong for someone to excel at life? And Mymy is just comic relief, don't take her seriously.

>>85706
You look like this and say this? Oh my…

>>85707
because it's not enough for her to excel at life, she also has to hold it over maya almost like the sword of damocles.

>>85703
Holy projecting, you will show undue charitability towards maya while concocting the most wicked characteristics for her sisters to make up for the fact that maya is mogged by her adopted sisters
Mymy is funny, ambitious, personable, energetic, chuddy
Coco is kind, hard working, forgiving, trying her best
Name 1 (one) positive attribute regarding maya that isn't made up like the ones you tried to slip by in your previous posts
>she's sweet which we can see in uhhhhh duhhhhh well I guess she isn't
>erm, she's kind because uhhhh ermmm
You say at least maya's honest but how is she honest? There's not an honest bone in her body, she isn't even honest to herself. She lies about having friends, then lies to herself saying she isn't lonely, she lies about being sick on her birthday (inb4 that doesn't count because honesty doesn't mean not lying). The only reason you think she's honest is because you follow her and her internal monologue and this makes you think you understand her.
You're literally just spewing head canon like a fag

>>85711
this just sounds like you're bitter and prescribing motives to a character that isn't shown or even hinted to have them

>>85711
also the sword of damocles isn't about envy as much as it is about the danger of holding power, talk about surface level understanding!

>>85713
>>85714
>>85715
Three TRVTH NVKES that broke the Mayacels' back

>>85686
>shy
>NEET
>ADD
>skinny
>needy
>loves BWC
Literally carefully constructed to be the girlfriend of a sensitive young Aryan. Prove me wrong

>>85722
TSMT. cocofags and mymyfags just don't get it

>>85713
>you will show undue charitability towards maya while concocting the most wicked characteristics for her sisters
you will show undue charitability towards coco and mymy while disingenuously disregarding any positive characteristics for their sister

>Mymy is funny, ambitious, personable, energetic, chuddy
>Coco is kind, hard working, forgiving, trying her best
>Name 1 (one) positive attribute regarding maya that isn't made up like the ones you tried to slip by in your previous posts
>>she's sweet which we can see in uhhhhh duhhhhh well I guess she isn't
>>erm, she's kind because uhhhh ermmm

i said that to expose you as a hypocrite.

also
>Name 1 (one) positive attribute regarding maya that isn't made up like the ones you tried to slip by in your previous posts
i haven't name a positive attribute yet, because that was someone else who did.
>personable
mymy is not personable, infact she's extremely rude to the point of absurdity.

and listen, i shouldn't have said maya was honest, because what i really meant was that unlike the others she doesn't wear a metaphorical mask.
i was just thinking of the easiest way to describe what i meant, but it obviously wasn't specific or nuanced enough to really describe what i meant.

maya's lies are barely if ever harmful to anyone except herself, she doesn't lie to make herself look better but rather to prevent herself from digging an even bigger hole to be trapped in.
her relationship with her sisters is not healthy, mymy makes fun of her and treats her like garbage, and while coco has good intentions and wants to make things better, she is so airheaded and out of touch, she just ends up making things worse.
what is maya even supposed to do but lie?
she is not in any condition to hang out with them, and she won't be for as long as she doesn't get some help, the kind that she isn't going to get from her sisters.

>>85714
kind of like you?

>>85715
you're so hecking smart you smug, pseudointellectual, faggot!
never said it was about envy, i meant it in a figurative sense, the fear of a sword hanging over your head, ready to drop at any moment is a perfect metaphor of what maya's going through, and the reason why she isolates herself, the worst thing that can happen to maya is her being outed as a "loser" (kind like what coco did, SHE made the sword drop.), due to her extremely low self esteem and nonexistent pride in anything, because she's too busy trying to cope with her extremely lonely, painful life.
she's forced to seek dopamine in any way possible, because no one will treat her like a human being, especially not her sisters.
they tried to at the end of the final deel, but the damage has already been done.
she's not willing to relinquish her feeling of safety, because she doesn't want to be the "loser".

maya is a tortured soul, but despite that she's an empathetic, passionate, hopeless romantic, you don't really need much more than that, nobody's required to have a million positive traits to be loved.
she is untapped potential, she hasn't given herself an outlet to express herself, and if she could find one it could really turn things around.
but no, she should just give up and kill herself because of faggots like you who have no real care or empathy for others, literally everything to you is transactional.
fuck you faggots.

>>85719
got trvked by ME award.
your tbp is LEAKING.

>>85724
that's why maya said that thing about coco's parents by the way.
sword of damymyococoles.
just another reason why she doesn't want to hang out with them, because she'll say something horrible like that because of her emotional instability.
it doesn't really help that she was forced to swallow her pride because she couldn't complete a presentation, solely because of an innate disparity in her attention span, that she has no control over.
nothing that happens to her would happen to anyone else.
when i really stop to think about it, i don't know what you could blame her for, other than that one singular moment.
she's pigeonholed and trapped, her parents don't give her the time of day, she is completely fucked.
how is it even possible to be so heartless as to blame her for everything?
this is emotional and anecdotal but i don't care, i hate this unjust attrocity.
it's fair to criticize her, but it's not fair to act like everything that happens to her is purely her fault. understanding and help from the right place (the heart, figuratively) can go a long way.

>>85724
trvke you vvon

If it succeeds in portraying the bleak state of the post-industrial, post-Internet first world, then can it really be a failed pilot, or is it we who have failed?

>>85724
A whole lotta text to say a whole lotta nuffin
>you will show undue charitability towards coco and mymy while disingenuously disregarding any positive characteristics for their sister
In what way did I do this? I didn't obviously, if I did you'd provide examples. Reddit tier no u.
>i said that to expose you as a hypocrite.
You conceded she isn't shown to be kind to expose me as a hypocrite?
>i haven't name a positive attribute yet, because that was someone else who did.
Also because you can't
>mymy is not personable, infact she's extremely rude to the point of absurdity.
I find her personable and unlike maya she actually has friends that back this up. If you're bombastic but not personable people won't like you.
>she doesn't weark a mask
Except she lies about having friends (wearing a mask for her sisters) and lies to herself saying she isn't lonely (wearing a mask for herself)
>maya's lies are barely if ever harmful to anyone except herself
Self harm is a negative trait. And lying in general is evil, regardless of what cope you have for it. Are you saying this to contrast her with her sisters? Because I don't see how coco or mymy hurt anyone with lies.
>her relationship with her sisters is not healthy, mymy makes fun of her and treats her like garbage
It's called sibling banter and maya obviously doesn't mind mymy's antics as much as she minds coco (envy)
>what is maya even supposed to do but lie?
Not being a fucking loser, or at least own it (aka be honest)
>kind of like you?
>no u
kek it doesn't even make sense
>you're so hecking smart you smug, pseudointellectual, faggot!
There is no theme of the sword of damocels, you literally just inserted it in to sound smart.
>oh maya is unsocial and fears saying the wrong thing… this is literally like that one greek anecdote about an envious peasant realizing the threat to self that comes with wielding power!
And this sword of mayacels does drop, like when she says her favorite painter is hitler, or when she makes incestuous advances towards her sister (incest is a negative trait btw) or when she calls coco an orphan (which coco forgives her very quickly considering). So the sword isn't even hanging it's just stabbing her over and over and she keeps on going (vid rel), which hey, good for her but it undermines your comparison.
>nonexistent pride
If she was humble she would have no issue admitting the truth but her ego doesn't let her admit she's a loser.
>no one will treat her like a human being, especially not her sisters
Coco wants to help her, that's a humane way of treating someone who needs help. If you want to say her kindness makes her someone who treats maya as a lesser I tell you mymy treats her as an equal because she treats her without a filter. You can't just say neither of them treat her as a human, you're just saying things at this point
>maya is a tortured soul, but despite that she's an empathetic, passionate, hopeless romantic
making up shit award, you're literally pulling this shit out of your ass, you constructed an idol of maya in your mind, actually meds
>nobody's required to have a million positive traits to be loved
Yeah they're only required to be cute for losers with no standards to fall over themselves for you
>she is untapped potential
AKA nothing
>she hasn't given herself an outlet to express herself
Fault her sloth, if she didn't watch tentacle pornography all day maybe she'd find something interesting to do.
>she should just give up and kill herself
The only positive attribute of hers is that she still hasn't killed herself (vid rel)
>>85725
>she was forced to swallow her pride
Which she has (negative trait)
>solely because of an innate disparity in her attention span, that she has no control over
Now you're not treating her like a human. She is a conscious agent in charge of herself, not doing her presentation and instead playing shitty vidya is her fault, not the fault of some diagnosis. Don't treat her like an invalid, you're doing what you accused her sisters of doing.
>her parents don't give her the time of day
citation needed (that isn't your ass)
>wah wah she got it so bad nigguh!
Everyone's condition is in some way related to their circumstances but people are still in charge of their lives, they still have the opportunity to act virtuously and rise above. Maya doesn't do this. You can recognize that her circumstances are unfavorable while also recognizing it's on her for being such a wretch. You can pity her, sympathize with her, but there's still nothing to like about her.

>>85765
I'm also sorry for anyone reading this for the format of one line of greentext one line of response but the retardation density is too high for me to respond in chunks

>>85724
>she (Maya) is not in any condition to hang out with them, and she won't be for as long as she doesn't get some help, the kind that she isn't going to get from her sisters.

Didn't Coco and Mymy invited her to play board games after school? When they, you know, almost caught Maya gooning again? And Maya herself declined?

>>85779
Reddit spacing award

>>85779
he won't respond to this because it goes against his narrative that her sisters are at fault rather than her

>>85765
>OH MY HECKING GOSH A WHOLE LOTTA TEXT TO SAY A WHOLE LOTTA NUFFIN BECAUSE I'M A RETARDED FAGGOT HICK
i said everything actually, everything of note.
>>you will show undue charitability towards coco and mymy while disingenuously disregarding any positive characteristics for their sister
>In what way did I do this? I didn't obviously, if I did you'd provide examples. Reddit tier no u.
you literally did.

>Mymy is funny, ambitious, personable, energetic, chuddy
>Coco is kind, hard working, forgiving, trying her best
>Name 1 (one) positive attribute regarding maya that isn't made up like the ones you tried to slip by in your previous posts
>>she's sweet which we can see in uhhhhh duhhhhh well I guess she isn't
>>erm, she's kind because uhhhh ermmm
fucking retard doesn't even remember what he types.

>>i said that to expose you as a hypocrite.
>You conceded she isn't shown to be kind to expose me as a hypocrite?

no you retarded faggot, i was intentionally unfair towards coco and mymy just like you are towards maya, i was trying to show you that you're a retard who exaggerates things based on your bias that comes from years of being a transactional untermensch.
i like all of the 'zellig sisters, i have drawn art of all of them.

>i haven't name a positive attribute yet, because that was someone else who did.
Also because you can't
i very obviously did, but whatever.
>maya is a tortured soul, but despite that she's an empathetic, passionate, hopeless romantic.
tortured soul, because she's dealing with adhd, anxiety, jealousy, and loneliness at a very early point in her life.
empathetic, because despite these issues she still manages to keep her relationship with her sisters intact even if she has to lie, and most of the pain that comes from lying she brings onto herself.
passionate and a hopeless romantic, because she believes in love at first sight, and desperately wants to experience it despite her social retardation, third picrel.
>making up shit award, you're literally pulling this shit out of your ass, you constructed an idol of maya in your mind, actually meds
cope and seethe, it's all there, you're too shallow to see anything past your nose, you retarded jewish faggot.

>>mymy is not personable, infact she's extremely rude to the point of absurdity.
>I find her personable and unlike maya she actually has friends that back this up. If you're bombastic but not personable people won't like you.
mymy has maybe one friend (enemy) other than her two sisters, and it's someone who's very similar to her (kiki).
she is not personable, you just like her. (even though i do as well albeit.)

>>she doesn't weark a mask
>Except she lies about having friends (wearing a mask for her sisters) and lies to herself saying she isn't lonely (wearing a mask for herself)
that's a misrepresentation of what a "mask" even is, in this situation.
you can't really describe maya's lies as a mask that she wears because they're such obvious ones and i believe that's completely on purpose.
the intention of her lies is also completely different, she doesn't lie to hide who or what she is but rather to get away from the situations that make her feel even more addicted to isolating herself, which makes no sense, because to get away from those situations that make her want to isolate herself, she must isolate herself.

>>maya's lies are barely if ever harmful to anyone except herself
>Self harm is a negative trait. And lying in general is evil, regardless of what cope you have for it. Are you saying this to contrast her with her sisters? Because I don't see how coco or mymy hurt anyone with lies.
there is no contrast to be found, i'm saying she is not harming herself because she wants to, but rather to prevent what i said before, the sword of damymyococoles.
obviously you have never experienced the situations that would lead you to come to the conclusion that lying is sometimes necessary, and not strictly always a bad thing, unfortunately that would require you to think with some nuance or complexity which you obviously can't.
>>oh maya is unsocial and fears saying the wrong thing… this is literally like that one greek anecdote about an envious peasant realizing the threat to self that comes with wielding power!
>And this sword of mayacels does drop, like when she says her favorite painter is hitler, or when she makes incestuous advances towards her sister (incest is a negative trait btw) or when she calls coco an orphan (which coco forgives her very quickly considering). So the sword isn't even hanging it's just stabbing her over and over and she keeps on going (vid rel), which hey, good for her but it undermines your comparison.
i'm not watching your retarded ylyl video.
the sword is hanging, until it drops whenever she unintentionally says something retarded, then she gets "stabbed" by embarrassment and shame, which only encourages her to lie and isolate herself even more.
you would need someone strong, understanding, and assertive to break her out of this, and her sisters are just not that.
also why are you so upset with this metaphor? it's a perfect description of what it's like to be a social retard, it literally is a sword that hangs over you, but rather instead of threatening to drop at any time, it only threatens to drop when you're in a social situation.
this is my way of explaining how she feels, and you're having a sperg out over it for no reason.
i never say or do anything to sound smart, i just say and do what comes to mind, if that's wrong then whatever.
also the incest thing, (how is it incest if they aren't even related? meds.) i think it's a nothingburger, of course she's going to act a little homosexual when she's going through puberty. (zeg, but seriously it's whatever)

>>her relationship with her sisters is not healthy, mymy makes fun of her and treats her like garbage
>It's called sibling banter and maya obviously doesn't mind mymy's antics as much as she minds coco (envy)
that doesn't really matter, mymy still isn't nice to maya, and you're wrong anyway, she does mind, when mymy makes fun of her attention deficit disorder or add or adhd or whatever you want to call it, it's extremely annoying to her, probably because her sister just made fun of the one thing causing a disproportionate amount of problems in her life.
she doesn't mind coco either, rather she minds how easy everything comes for her.
envy is inevitable when you're constantly being compared to someone who's seemingly better than you at everything.
while it is maya's fault for giving up, i can't blame her when everything that requires attention is a massive hurdle, and that's not even getting into social situations.

>>85765
>>kind of like you?
>>no u
>kek it doesn't even make sense
yeah it wouldn't make sense to you if you're a fucking subhuman who didn't understand my obvious exaggeration of coco and mymy's negative traits, like seriously, what did you think i was trying to prove here?

"coco is desperate for attention and validation so she's created a persona of perfection that she very often uses to exercise superiority over the easy target of her sister whom she stole all that attention from when she was first adopted."
"mymy is an unstable, egotistical megalomaniac, so ashamed with her heritage and ethnicity that she's living the life of a nonexistent "dutch" girl because she can't bear to be what she actually is."

you're the dumbest faggot ever for taking this literally instead of seeing it as a demonstration of what you people do, which is what it was SUPPOSED to be.

>>nonexistent pride
>If she was humble she would have no issue admitting the truth but her ego doesn't let her admit she's a loser.
if she actually did that you would call her self destructive.
you're unfair.
nonexistent pride doesn't mean "humble" moron, it means what it means, nonexistent pride.
pride is not a wholly bad thing, you need pride, to have confidence and self-esteem.
maya has none of those three things, which is why she acts the way she does.
she tried to build these things up, but was instantly met with failure due to issues that nobody else has.

>>no one will treat her like a human being, especially not her sisters
>Coco wants to help her, that's a humane way of treating someone who needs help. If you want to say her kindness makes her someone who treats maya as a lesser I tell you mymy treats her as an equal because she treats her without a filter. You can't just say neither of them treat her as a human, you're just saying things at this point
it was a slight exaggeration, but seriously this is one of the dumbest things you've said.
while it is funny, mymy literally treats maya like a tied up slave, because apparently that's all she is to her.
coco unintentionally (i'd assume anyway) treats maya like a pet nigger, the way they talk to eachother just isn't natural, there is a clear "slant" in almost every conversation they have.
she must have good intentions, but whatever she's doing isn't working, not that she would understand that anyway.

>>nobody's required to have a million positive traits to be loved
>Yeah they're only required to be cute for losers with no standards to fall over themselves for you
>OH MY GAHD BRO HAVING EMPATHY LE BAD AND STUFF THE UNDERDOG IS ALWAYS LE BAD AND WORTH NOTHING HOW DARE YOU EVEN TRY TO CARE ABOUT PEOPLE WHO DESPERATELY NEED THAT CONSIDERATION YOU'RE JUST A LOSER WITH NO HECKING STANDARDS
kay why ess

>>she is untapped potential
>AKA nothing
this is an appeal to ignorance, you literally can't know this.
>nobody has ever proved to me that she has untapped potential so i know she has no untapped potential
maya would have untapped potential if she hasn't already tapped into it yet, that's a fact.

>>she hasn't given herself an outlet to express herself
>Fault her sloth, if she didn't watch tentacle pornography all day maybe she'd find something interesting to do.
what else would you do if everything sucks?
people tend towards the path of least resistance, i would assume that her sessions are the only time she's actually happy, and that's very sad.
this completely fails to reach you though, to you it's just something to satisfy your negativity bias towards her.
>flaws le bad even though everybody is flawed especially me for being a gay retard

>>she should just give up and kill herself
>The only positive attribute of hers is that she still hasn't killed herself (vid rel)
still not watching your stupid video.
anyway, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW you have such a heart! it's actually sort of good that she still hasn't killed herself!
only positive attribute…
this is really what i mean, you are seriously only transactional, everything nuanced or complicated is completely incomprehensible woah jacks to you.
if something would not benefit you directly, that's le bad.
if your gratification has to be delayed for even a moment, that's le bad.
you're somehow more shallow than an empty swimming pool.

>>she was forced to swallow her pride
>Which she has (negative trait)
just a phrase, i should have said "bite the bullet", or anything similar to that really.

>>solely because of an innate disparity in her attention span, that she has no control over
>Now you're not treating her like a human. She is a conscious agent in charge of herself, not doing her presentation and instead playing shitty vidya is her fault, not the fault of some diagnosis. Don't treat her like an invalid, you're doing what you accused her sisters of doing.
now you're just wrong, desperately grasping at straws.
how exactly is acknowledging her AY DEE DEE "not treating her like a human." or "treating her like an invalid."
she literally has a problem paying attention, that's like saying that if i called markiplier short, i would be treating him as an invalid, like no, he's just short.

>her parents don't give her the time of day
it's not to hard to infer, that based on her behavior and lack of proper care for her AY DEE DEE, her parents are not giving her the attention she needs, obviously this is probably her fault, since she locks herself in her room all day, but if that's the case then what started this in the first place?
she was supposedly happy until her sisters came along, which is why i posture the theory that she has a lack of attention from her parents and that they are at least partially responsible for why she is the way she is.

>>wah wah she got it so bad nigguh!
>Everyone's condition is in some way related to their circumstances but people are still in charge of their lives, they still have the opportunity to act virtuously and rise above. Maya doesn't do this. You can recognize that her circumstances are unfavorable while also recognizing it's on her for being such a wretch. You can pity her, sympathize with her, but there's still nothing to like about her.
maya does whatever she needs to, to preserve what she cares about, she doesn't want to fracture her relationship with her sisters, because they are all she has, even if they are somewhat responsible for the loss of valuable attention that could have been spent correcting her path in life, because obviously she cares about them.
what opportunity has maya been given? you need actual willpower to act virtously and rise above, she doesn't have this, after all how could she? there is nothing to gain confidence from, and there is nothing scrutinizing her negative behavior.
there is a lot to like about her if you aren't a -314159265… iq nudnik, but i don't want to repeat myself anymore than i already have.
i will say this though, she deserves love, she deserves another chance.

>>85779
>>85781
probably because you're niggers that don't understand that i wasn't trying to make a narrative that her sisters are at fault, but rather trying to expose your blatant bias and obvious hypocrisy.
you'll make excuses for anyone except maya, because you'll have as mental breakdown if you ever have to acknowledge flaws or complexities.

can someone summarize this whole thread, rather hypocritical coming from someone who writes miles of text all the time but the point still stands

>>85807
i'm a schizo so i wrote up walls of text trying to defend maya.

>>85804
>>85805
>>85812
you vvon

>>85813
they're all tilted please fix it oh em gee
i'm not super proud of that drawing, i think i have improved though.

>>85814
honestly i havent recognized much art that was yours so dont know

>>85815
i haven't drawn alot of things, and even if i do i don't always share it, i am somewhat ashamed of my art, and i don't think i can really be called an artist.
i'm planning on uploading something soon, it will hopefully be the best thing i've shared so far.

>>85819
i see now

>>85819
>i haven't drawn alot of things, and even if i do i don't always share it, i am somewhat ashamed of my art, and i don't think i can really be called an artist.
Gng it can't be that bad

>>85822
you're right, here's my art.










(just kidding btw.)

>reddit quality post
Yep, its over

but seriously can someone tell me how you draw legs?
that's all i need to do to finish my latest drawing or whatever, but i don't know how to draw them, they always look really weird when i do it.

>>85828
Have you tried using a reference?

>>85832
yeah, it comes out looking really weird though.
maybe humans are just weird.

>>85812
that's what i woulda did if i wasn't too lazy! thank you for being me, me!

>>85838
meds

>>85842
but why would i do that me, like me tell me why you as in me should take those stupid meds, exactly if i wanted to we would have already taken it me!!!

>>85847
shut up schizo

>>85848
you shut up schizo… why am i even talking to myself anyway?

>>85804
Kill yourself nigger, your shitskin waifu should have cut deeper.

>>85850
got trvked award

Waifufaggot tranny above me

>>85852
got graped award

>>85804
>fucking retard doesn't even remember what he types.
You're not arguing, you're just repeating what I said, are you unfamiliar with the concept of rebuttal? Refutation maybe?
>no you retarded faggot, i was intentionally unfair towards coco and mymy just like you are towards maya
Hold on, that's not what you were responding to. You were responding to me saying the positive traits you attributed to maya were made up and that you conceded that when pressed, which you did. Do I gotta screenshot the text and circle it in bright red? Did you just forget what you wrote?

Also it doesn't expose me as a hypocrite because I didn't argue that the other 2 sisters don't have problems, I argued that they have some positive/admirable attributes, unlike maya who has none
>i was trying to show you that you're a retard who exaggerates things based on your bias that comes from years of being a transactional untermensch.
In what way do I exaggerate? Maya is a socially inept gooner and isn't shown any redeemable qualities. That's not exaggerating or being uncharitable, that's the plain interpretation of her character.
>i very obviously did, but whatever.
1. Being a tortured soul isn't a positive quality it's misfortune
2. She isn't empathetic she's consistently shown as quite antagonistic (not saying it is or isn't justified, nor is that relevant) towards her sisters and their entire relationship rests on coco's shoulders, not maya's
3. Where are you getting all this? What gives you the idea that she's passionate or a hopeless romantic? She doesn't seem to have passion for jack shit, she eternally rots in her room and she's not shown any exceptional romantic interest or drive unless you want to point to her use of octopus pornography. Are you perhaps drawing from shit outside of the pilot (that isn't your ass)?
>>cope and seethe
>proceeds to cope and seethe
kek it's kino!

>mymy has maybe one friend (enemy) because uhh
Now that's uncharitable. Where are you pulling this from? We can see mymy talking to a boy during lunch and considering she's running for class representative she's probably got at least a bit of a following/popularity. You're again looking to your headcanon instead of reasonably extrapolating from what we're given.
>she is not personable even doe you like her and I like her and she's a fan favorite
k
>erm maya isn't wearing a mask because her lies are obvious or something… Noy mymy doe, a nip larping as a dutch nationalist isn't very obvious
mhm.
>maya doesn't lie to hide who she is even doe she obviously is and crashes out when it's revealed
yep.
>bro it's so paradoxical like bro
aha.
>obviously you have never experienced the situations that would lead you to come to the conclusion that lying is sometimes necessary
Lying is never necessary. Lying is a sin and God won't let anyone be tempted by that which they cannot resist. The only time lying is justified is when it's to prevent a greater evil. Not to say I've never lied or felt like I "need" to lie, lying is a common sin, but to say she has to pervert the truth for such trivial and banal matters is ridiculous. It's not necessary for her to lie, it's easy. And doing good things (like telling the truth) is often hard.
>muh nuance bro!
uh huh.
>i'm not watching your retarded ylyl video.
Your loss
>the sword is hanging, until it drops whenever she unintentionally says something retarded, then she gets "stabbed" by embarrassment and shame
You're still misusing the anecdote, it's a sword that drops not a sword that drops and rises and drops and rises etc.
>also why are you so upset with this metaphor?
Because it doesn't fit. If you want to use an anecdote for such an ambiguous thing that's fine but at least disambiguate it before causing confusion and crashing out.
>how is it incest if they aren't even related
Holy mayafails THIS IS YOUR MINDSET!!!
>muh adhd!
That's bogus. Everyone has adhd, I have adhd, it's a fucking nothingburger.

>>85805
>yeah it wouldn't make sense to you
No it just doesn't make sense, how am I bitter and prescribing motives to anyone?

>you're the dumbest faggot ever for taking this literally instead of seeing it as a demonstration of what you people do, which is what it was SUPPOSED to be.
Except I didn't do that. You just said something retarded unrelated to anything I said. It's unironically not even comparable to anything I said. picrel

>erm you would call telling the truth self destructive because uhh you just would and that makes sense even doe it doesn't
right, yeah.
>non existent pride doesn't mean humility even doe humility is the absence of pride
mhm sure, yeah.
>you need pride to have confidence and self esteem
That's just wrong. You can be confident in your ability without thinking highly of yourself, that's humility.
>bro nobody else has adhd!
inb4 erm she also has adopted sisters and uhh her cat or something
>coco treats her like a pet nigger
Sure, I conceded as much
>mymy literally ties her up like a slave
oh the horror of a visual gag! The point was that mymy treats her like a peer, banter and insults included, unlike coco who traets her like an invalid/pet nigger
>>OH MY GAHD BRO HAVING EMPATHY LE BAD AND STUFF THE UNDERDOG IS ALWAYS LE BAD AND WORTH NOTHING HOW DARE YOU EVEN TRY TO CARE ABOUT PEOPLE
Not what I said, sperg.
>>YOU'RE JUST A LOSER WITH NO HECKING STANDARDS
That's just true, if you're falling in love with a complete loser what else is the conclusion? There's a difference between empathy/pity and worship/simping
>muh potential
When I said nothing I didn't mean she didn't have untapped potential. Everyone has untapped potential but that potential is nothing until it is tapped. Having untapped potential is nothing until you start to realize that potential. You're setting a really low bar (which you have to in order to defend maya)
>what else would you do if everything sucks?
That's for everyone to figure out because everything does suck.
>people tend towards the path of least resistance
They do, that's not admirable. And everyone has the choice to not do that. If you chose the path of least resistance the consequences are yours to reap, it's the wages of your will and you have no one else to blame.
>everything nuanced or complicated is completely incomprehensible woah jacks to you.
She can be as nuanced of a wretch as you want her to be, she's still a wretch.
>oh the intricacies of why she's a depressed gooner are so fascinating
Yeah agreed, still a depressed gooner
>blah blah bunch of things I didn't say yada yada, the usual
>just a phrase
Ever thought of why that's a phrase? Almost as if it means something…
>how exactly is acknowledging her AY DEE DEE "not treating her like a human." or "treating her like an invalid."
Because that's exactly what you're doing, you're denying her agency. She may have this half made up nonsense that makes it hard to concentrate but that doesn't mean she can't concentrate. I have dyslexia yet I still power through these mounds of dogshit of yours because I can choose to contend with difficulty. Maya may have adhd but that doesn't mean she can't choose to content with it and focus. No one has to be a victim of their circumstances because it is human ability and nature to rise above your circumstances.
>muh where's the care for the add!?
What care exactly? medication?
>not enough attention even doe she's a self made recluse
ok
>she was supposedly happy until her sisters came along, which is why i posture the theory that she has a lack of attention from her parents and that they are at least partially responsible for why she is the way she is.
Sure and I could concede this but it doesn't really change anything any of what I said.
>maya does whatever she needs to, to preserve what she cares about
>bro she needs to goon and lock herself in her room bro it's necessary o algo
>she doesn't want to fracture her relationship with her sisters
evidenced by her efforts, surely… surely…
>because they are all she has
Seemed to me from deel 1 she'd be fine to lose 'em and at no point was she shown attachment to them.
>what opportunity has maya been given?
What opportunity was Hitler given, nigga was fucking homeless.
>you need actual willpower
And it's (You) that's generates that willpower. It's not an elusive magic element that just eludes you so. You're once again taking agency out of people. I don't know about you but I believe in free will, I believe a man is his own master. I don't believe we are just left to the waves of time to carry us where ever, completely powerless because we just don't have willpower or have adhd or this or the other. And that notion, honestly, to me seems dehumanizing. What is more human that the unfiltered potential to act of your own accord?
>there is a lot to like about her
>still provided nothing
I already said why anyone would like her. If you identify with her shitty situation you're going to like her. (she's also female so that makes it like 10x easier to like her). It's not that complicated. You're not that sophisticated (or at all) and you're not that smart.
>she deserves love
Do any of us, really?
>you'll make excuses for anyone except maya
mfw didn't happen
>because you'll have as mental breakdown if you ever have to acknowledge flaws or complexities.
says the guy having a mental breakdown because he can't acknowledge how flawed maya is

you guys but /brapbant/ to shame with those novels you've been writing

>>85853
>graped
go back reelstranny

>>85854
>>85855
you must have zero reading comprehension, because you completely misunderstood everything i typed.
i didn't concede anything other than my poor word choice of "honest".
i did not sneak in any positive attributes, because that was some one else, i already told you this yet you're using it as some kind of coping mechanism to pretend you won the argument.

you are a hypocrite, you'll engage in demonizing maya but when i do the same to her sisters it's suddenly le bad.
plain interpetation? idiot's interpetation.
i said that despite being a tortured soul she had the qualities of empathetic passionate and a hopeless romantic.
i did not say that being a tortured soul is a positive quality.
i am not that difficult to understand, i type in a very casual matter of fact manner so i can only assume you're stupid or english isn't your first language, probably both.
she is empathetic, if she wasn't she would literally just bluntly tell her sisters to fuck off and leave her alone.
i'm getting this from maya's conversation, a comic made by massa, it gives you a sight into her desire for passion and love. you would probably know about it if everything about you wasn't completely superficial.
again, cope and seethe.
mymy is confirmed to only have one friend other than her sisters, which is kiki, and it's more of a frenemies relationship.
not everything is headcanon, holy moron.
mymy is not shown to be popular at school, whatever we think is irrelevant.
that whole spiel about mymy i typed is irrelevant retard, it was to make you look like a hypocritical retard, which it did, i've only told you like 3 times.
she crashed out because the hecking sword stabbed her, the thing she was trying to avoid, just like i said.
>sperging out over me calling something a paradox even though it's a perfect description of the vicious cycle that is being a social retard
lying is necessary, because sometimes the worst thing you can do is tell the truth.
do i think it's good to lie in general? no, obviously not.
i was just trying to get you to see that things are more complex than you believe.
also your spergout about never feeling like you had to lie is completely anecdotal and meaningless, we're arguing, not telling stories.
your video is shit kay why ess.
the sword of damocles is not an anecdote, i don't think you know what that word means.
i'm not misusing it either, there's nothing with me creating an easily digestible visual of maya's ambiguous sense of doom and anxiety with the sword of damymyococoles.
the incest thing is a joke. (which i'm right about.)
adhd is real because markiplier has it.

Whiney clittycel above me

>>85864
won't lie this whole thread is whining niggers or something whatever they're talking about i ain't buying it yo. maya won everyone else is btfo'd. maya is the trve love there's nothing to discuss further if you think otherwise then you probably have never experienced true love and i hope you will one day because it truly is something special!

>>85866
the file name says soystein, but the image is clearly of soyberg even confiming it with his nametag on his jacket.
There is identity theft going on soyberg is stealing soystein's identity to commit medical crimes under his name to get rid of his competition.

>>85866
tsmt ill love maya forever

>>85867
meds his name was always soystein also stop looking at my filenames you obsessed CACA

>>85869
you have no idea how much information is revealed about someone based on the filenaming habits they use, for that reason I download images with original file name and often change the name of the files every few months

>>85870
if that's trve what did those file names """reveal"""

>>85871
mostly it identifies posters but there have been instances where it was used to expose samefagging. If you know about Lorenzo and "davvid", the specific file name confirmed "davvid" was actually Lorenzo, and there are a few other things, but I can't let all the secrets go out.

>>85873
geg well i don't samefag and considering you just said you rename your files that doesn't exactly sound good on paper like this does it? honestly i personally don't have to worry about naming files because the way i type makes it too obvious when it's me anyway and sadly i have been already recognized for my typing all too many times, i just want to be in peace i don't need no stupid namefagging or samefagging that's stupid and retarded

>>85866
Meds Maya is an unlovable nigger because she never goes out of her room

>>85875
i'm truly sorry for you, may you one day realize what true love is. may you find the true love one day. such a lost soul, i'm sorry.

>>85876
For a disgusting shitskins foid? Kill yourself tranny HH

>>85877
you are the reason the way she is. you are the disgusting nigger faggot and you know it. we both know it but you can't admit it.

>>85855
off-topic, but why do you post the worst images/gifs with your arguments?
this just makes me want to call you a retard, retard.
anyway…
because you touch yourself at night, idk.
okay if you didn't do that then someone else did, which makes it irrelevant so who cares.
it does make sense, you're a biased faggot who would do anything to find some reason to tear other people down for finding value in le fictional dutch cartoon girl on the
dutch cartoon with soyjaks website
this humble and humility thing is stupid and based on what you define them as.
i think of pride as in "take pride in your work."
i don't think there's anything to argue about there, maya is not proud, which based purely off definitions would make her humble, or a possessor of humility.
>muh visual gag
just like how the incest joke was aj audible gag?
seriously, your contradictions are funny to me, you get mad about me doing the same thing you do.
>>bro nobody else has adhd
>inb4 erm she also has adopted sisters and uhh her cat or something
i have no idea what the fuck this means, incomprehensible.
exactly what you said, sperg.
having standards is not the same as being shallow as a puddle.
it's fine to acknowledge maya's flaws but you're literally disregarding her including any potential she has, it's just wasteful and stupid.
if it's any indicator of how you view things in real life i doubt any of your friends are safe from you just dropping them if they defy your extremely warped view of reality.
>i didn't mean what i actually said.
okay that's fine, but it wasn't that hard to say what you actually meant to be fair.
i didn't set any bar, i was simply trying to state that she has value in a way your closed-mind would allow you to understand.
it's my fault for thinking we could reach an understanding like actual human beings.
you can talk about what is admirable all you want, i'm simply stating the facts.
yeah she is a wretch, how does that strengthen your argument about there being nothing to like about her?
her being unfortunate and unfairly maligned makes it even easier for me to sympathize with her, because i don't have an iq below room temperature.
you don't want to understand anything or anyone, you just want to be right.
you're not genuine.
blah blah bunch of things you did say important important, the unusual.
yeah, it is just a phrase, the meaning was pretty close to what i meant, i don't see why this is something that even needs to be mentioned.
acknowledging her actual issues instead of your made-up ones is not "denying her agency."
i don't see her as someone who needs to be "fixed", i see her as someone in need.
if she can't reach the top shelf i can give her something to stand on.
if there is nothing to stand on i will raise her up.
adhd isn't "half made-up nonsense", just like how dyslexia isn't "half made-up nonsense", that explains your noticeably bad reading comprehension, though.
adhd is a spectrum, by the way.
yes, where is the hecking gender affirming care?
>muh self made recluse
very stupid, you literally acknowledge that this isn't the case in your post then you say it doesn't matter if you hecking concede.
at that point when does anything you say or do matter, retard.
>muh efforts don't even exist
i'm sorry that you have a mind as vast as a gloryhole, and that everything different from you is not worth acknowledging.
everything she does is a lot harder than it would be for you or me.
the ability to understand this is called empathy of zoiets.
i have no real reason to not talk down to you, because you've already proved yourself to be an ignorant closed-minded welp.
there is no way for her to show attachment, when she's anxious, socially retarded, and inexperienced.
she seems to also just feel bad when around her sisters, literally "together i feel more alone."
this is what really bothers me, it's as if you're completely unable to comprehend this.
clitler was not alone, and he didn't accomplish his ultimate goal anyway, such a nice way to say absolutely nothing at all.
we can discuss volition all day, the fact of the matter is that something can't just come from nothing. (except god and the universe but whatever.)
humans don't just generate willpower, and your will can be broken.
it's hard to talk about this because it varies from person to person, we are also not talking about a man.
girls are not known for being strong-willed.
there are reasons, you just don't want to acknowledge them, after all you don't want your narrative built on the back of bitterness and hatred to get shattered, do you?
if you deserve love, then you do, it's as shrimple as that.
>>you'll make excuses for anyone except maya
>mfw didn't happen
of course you're not going to repeat a mistake i called you out for, that's like saying you would still be acting like a retard if i called you retarded.
of zoiets…
>muh mental breakdown
just another comedic exaggeration, it's lost on your angry and hate-filled mind.
i do acknowledge how flawed she is, that's what makes her human.
anyway, this tirade of dyslexic autism should just end, saying she has nothing of value to offer is just an opinion, and is not the fact you deem it to be.
i don't hate you, even if you believe i do, even if you hate me.
i was just naive enough to think i could convince someone who already has their mind made up.



>85856
thanks, i try.

>>85859
has never watched whitest kids u know award

>>85864
trvked

>>85879
zeg, i should have argued with you on the computer so i could have easily quoted each point i'm replying to.
>because you touch yourself at night, idk.
>okay if you didn't that then someone else did,
actual gegerald

>>85879
wordswordswords you're a faggot we get it.

>>85861
>i did not sneak in any positive attributes, because that was some one else
But you were responding to my response to that third party. Look, pal, it's an anonymous imageboard, try to keep up.
>you are a hypocrite, you'll engage in demonizing maya but when i do the same to her sisters it's suddenly le bad.
Dually wrong.
A. I never demonized anyone
B. The central point was that maya had nothing going for her, not that the other sisters weren't flawed/bad/shit. So it's a completely moot point
>i did not say that being a tortured soul is a positive quality.
Fair, I forgot what you said originally
>she is empathetic, if she wasn't she would literally just bluntly tell her sisters to fuck off and leave her alone.
You're mistaking her meekness and cowardice for a quality she isn't shown to have and is in fact shown to have the opposite. She has a negative opinion of her sisters, established in deel 1 and further reinforced by her imagination. (also she literally has a no entry to coco blockade in front of her room, how the fuck do you square that?)
>maya's conversation
Extrapolating a lot from little. She got a crush on the first person she's probably talked to in weeks, I don't know that I'd consider that a hopeless romantic and I certainly don't know that I'd consider that being passionate (especially considering she's mostly characterized as lethargic more than anything)
>mymy is confirmed to only have one friend other than her sisters
deboonked by picrel from massa lore doc
>not everything is headcanon, holy moron.
Yeah only the shit you come up with from thin air that was not confirmed or hinted by the creator (or goes against what is shown or told)
>that whole spiel about mymy i typed is irrelevant retard, it was to make you look like a hypocritical retard
Yeah, failed spectacularly because unlike what I said it was completely falsifiable (and a moot point, see above)
>lying is necessary, because sometimes the worst thing you can do is tell the truth.
Yeah maybe if you're hiding valid jewish queens under your floor boards, but perverting truth for the sake of "meh I don't wanna look like a loser" is inexcusable. Principles make life difficult. The worst thing you can do is disregard moral principles because it's easy or comfortable. And I'm not moralizing, no one's perfect, but this is just true and you can't justify immorality with this banal nonsense.
>also your spergout about never feeling like you had to lie is completely anecdotal and meaningless, we're arguing, not telling stories.
Holy autism, you prompted that! You said "herm well you probably…" And regardless, I'm correct. You're never in a position where you have to lie, just where it's easier to lie (rare floor board related exceptions)
>the sword of damocles is not an anecdote, i don't think you know what that word means.
"a usually short narrative of an interesting, amusing, or biographical incident"
Words can sometimes have more than one meaning, talk about ESL. Unironically go to wikipedia, second paragraph, second word. I mean talk about pseudo intellectualism! Honestly.
>incest is a joke (but not actually)
usual mayacel antics

>>85878
Projected award

>>85885
I'll be honest this nigger is too dense to listen, I'm not sure he's going to give up.

>>85885
you're right sis.
someone literally had the sword of damocles hovering over their head.
>>incest is a joke (but not actually)
>usual mayacel antics
never said this btw MEDS NOW.

NIGGA I'M DONE.
basically everything has been cleared up, it's just specifications now.
i don't really care anymore.

>>85887
holy cord, go back to your cord, cord.
shouldn't have been a cord, you stupid cord.
cord woke up, cord woke up.

autism won btw.

>>85879
I have the best gifs, frankly, some people say they've never seen gifs this good.
>erm erm you tear other people down or something that's mean can't you just be a decent human being or something
It's the internet, get with the program or go back to reddit.
>erm here's what I think pride means
I mean pride in the biblical sense which I think is the most straight forward sense
>i have no idea what the fuck this means, incomprehensible.
Just like the wojaks or something
>it's fine to acknowledge maya's flaws but you're literally disregarding her including any potential she has, it's just wasteful and stupid.
Not doing that. Her not having any redeemable attributes is not the same as her being irredeemable. It's Precise language, she can better herself but as it stands she has nothing going for her. That was the point but you got personally offended by 1 line of text because you've unironically fallen in love and are obsessing with a fictional character (like a loser, not to tear you down or anything)
>>i didn't mean what i actually said.
I did mean what I said, you just misinterpreted what I said, which is why I elaborated. It's fine if you missed what I meant, I recognize it's an ambiguous statement.
>she has value
Everyone has value. Everyone has potential. Doesn't mean no one sucks.
>yeah she is a wretch, how does that strengthen your argument about there being nothing to like about her?
Because she's a wretch and there's nothing to like about her, are you reading what I'm saying? Should I reiterate the thesis?
>her being unfortunate and unfairly maligned makes it even easier for me to sympathize with her
And I can sympathize with palestinians getting firebombed by israel, doesn't mean I like them. Those are 2 separate attitudes.
>you don't want to understand anything or anyone, you just want to be right.
Well I am right and I do understand everyone and everything, those 2 aren't mutually exclusive.
>you're not genuine.
Agree to disagree
>yeah, it is just a phrase
It is a phrase that has meaning, you changing the phrase wouldn't change the meaning. To swallow one's pride means to do something that hurts your pride, for which you need to have pride. You changing the phrase wouldn't not make it a concession.
>acknowledging her actual issues instead of your made-up ones is not "denying her agency."
Adhd makes it difficult to concentrate, doesn't mean she can't concentrate. She can still concentrate, that's called agency. You're treating her like she is left helpless at the whims of her mental fog.
>that explains your noticeably bad reading comprehension, though.
Yeah I expect apologies btw. Would really behoove you to be more understanding of us neuro atypical folks, instead of trying to neurotypical-splain these issues. Listen and learn.
>adhd is a spectrum, by the way.
so valid
>>self made recluse
I meant that she chooses to be reclusive. Whether she became a recluse because of a lack of attention or she herself fled attention by becoming a recluse is speculation
>>muh efforts don't even exist
Said no one ever. What the fuck has this conversation even devolved to at this point? Nigga I just said that you are the master of your destiny (inb4 corny). You have full agency over what you do and what efforts you undertake. You CAN master difficult tasks, with great difficulty, determined by your inclinations and strengths. Obviously. The point was to say the increased efforts don't strip you of your power to make decisions and accomplish goals. There's fucking wheelchair bound niggas that are athletes. It is within human ability to overcome any effort. Obviously not everybody does, neither do I, and the point wasn't to say everything is trivial. The point is to say no one is helpless (except babies and maya apparently).
>there is no way for her to show attachment
So let me get this straight: You claim she has attachment, when asked about proof, you claim there can never be proof of it. That sounds like an unsupported, unfalsifiable assertion, AKA NOTHING. Besides, I think I gave some supporting arguments that go against this notion already.
>clitler was not alone
And maya isn't homeless, everyone has their own set of shit, bleak circumstances, that's the point (who did shitler even have anyways?)
>didn't accomplish his goal
Killed 6 million jews doe
>humans don't just generate willpower
That's literally what they do. You're just making yourself into an inactive agent if you think otherwise, it's just cope.
>girls are not known for being strong-willed.
Yeah they fucking suck, won't hear a disagreement from me.
>there are reasons, you just don't want to acknowledge them, after all you don't want your narrative built on the back of bitterness and hatred to get shattered, do you?
My narrative is bvilt on stoicism, autism and Andrew Tatism, stop projecting.
>if you deserve love, then you do, it's as shrimple as that.
>if x is true, then x is true.
insightful and sophisticated.
>mfw I get accused of doing something and the person doesn't tell me where I did it
would you actually engage? Take a screenshot or something, I genuinely don't remember making excuses for anyone, that's your role in this conversation!
>angry and hate-filled mind
I am filled with love and flowers. Look at the hostility with which you respond. Your (out)black(lunged) heart is pouring out hate and wrath on your fellow man because he said something bad about a fictional character. Reflect on that.
>I don't hate you
Evident by your writing

not reading all this niggerbable but i invite everyone to a /calm/ session to just calm down and relax this is just a place to hang out after all or something

>>85888
Kinda nuts, I have to say.

>>85891
me after arguing about shit nobody cares about for ongezillion years

>>85896
SNCA is literaly the Zarty, and it's so gemmy

>>85891
this is all just niggerbabble at this point so i'm not going to give it a dignified response.
what a fucking disaster this was, geg, why would you argue with an autist like me for two entire days?
this should be preserved in museums so people can learn to never ever ever ever ever NEVER do this.

>>85903
not that any response you made was dignified or dignifying anyways
>why
I enjoy it, obviously. You?

>>85911
>not that any response you made was dignified or dignifying anyways
i did not enjoy talking to a brick wall, this whole fiasco has made me a much worse person.

>>85915
>gigaquoting yourself
mayafails not like this…

gigaquoting yourself

>>85903
>>>85891
>this is all just niggerbabble at this point so i'm not going to give it a dignified response.
>what a fucking disaster this was, geg, why would you argue with an autist like me for two entire days?
>this should be preserved in museums so people can learn to never ever ever ever ever NEVER do this.
Geeeeg you done sniffing your farts yet faggot? You sound like a I 'm-smarter-and-better-than-you redditcuck. Get a life you retarded shitskin.

>>85945
maya is winned and are gooder than coco and mymy.
at what time was i ever pompous or pretentious?
you're insecure about your own intelligence is all.

>>85957
Coco is superior doebeit

>>85965
MAYA ARE GOODER

>>85973
MAYA ARE GOODER YOU ARE FUCKING SKIN SHIT BROWN NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER

>>85973
notice how coco doesn't look even close like that in the actual show, better yet i bet that nigger bitch puts tons of makeup to make herself look just a bit white i mean i'm sorry but AFRICA? and WHITE? those two (2) things don't really belong in one sentence now do they? so yeah case closed gtfo nigger lover

>>85979
nuzartycacas never heard of afrikaners zoot save us from this mental retardation or something

>>85979
she are right
>>85980
DIE SKIN OF SHIT NEGER

>>85982
what are the fuck is you are doing?
that are not right

>>85987
geg

>>85991
looking like that makes you a gigachad though