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Discuss how the sharty fell of from makings gems to posting coal, and what we must do to learn from their mistakes to not repeat them again.
Is it simply the lack of drive in making original content? The losing motivation? Being obsessed instead of doing anything about it? Being infiltrated both in and out, with no one to know how to fix it? Taking every bait instead of seeing it in another angle and not being controlled by emotions? Being seen as a breeding ground for wrongdoers to blend it without notice? Seeing themselves as holier-than-thou instead of understanding the other party? Just the normal lifecycle of an anonymous imageboard this huge and influential? The adverse effects of losing sight as to what made soyjaks a classic?
I really wanna know.
>>8510
Everything you said, also you forgot the jannies being trannies and every owner being a cordnigger
Everything you said, also you forgot the jannies being trannies and every owner being a cordnigger
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>>8511
Never really liked the shemmy. It's like mixing theatre band kids with the soysphere. Not a good look.
>>8512
Jannies have always been obsessed every since the dawn of anonymous imageboards. We can't do anything about it. There's no balance of powers, imagine correcting someone for free while also trying to do his job for free XD
<concerned space
The only good owner was Soot. When Kuz came in he was both the best and worse admin for the sharty. Changed the way the soysphere is outside the website, but at the same time brought in people never meant to mix well with the culture. We may never have someone like Soot again, since everyone here has been corrupted not because of jaks, but the subversion and demoralization attacks surrounding it.
Never really liked the shemmy. It's like mixing theatre band kids with the soysphere. Not a good look.
>>8512
Jannies have always been obsessed every since the dawn of anonymous imageboards. We can't do anything about it. There's no balance of powers, imagine correcting someone for free while also trying to do his job for free XD
<concerned space
The only good owner was Soot. When Kuz came in he was both the best and worse admin for the sharty. Changed the way the soysphere is outside the website, but at the same time brought in people never meant to mix well with the culture. We may never have someone like Soot again, since everyone here has been corrupted not because of jaks, but the subversion and demoralization attacks surrounding it.
>>8513
Kuz forced nas on /soy/ board but he also forced zellig here for some reason.
Kuz forced nas on /soy/ board but he also forced zellig here for some reason.
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>>8514
Yeah, classic Catch-22. If it weren't for him this community will never exist, but at the same time if it weren't for him maybe the sharty would've been better? I dunno what to think about that
Yeah, classic Catch-22. If it weren't for him this community will never exist, but at the same time if it weren't for him maybe the sharty would've been better? I dunno what to think about that
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It's a combination of different factors but OC is really a non factor
The memes and videos and what not were always cool but never the core of what made sharty enjoyable, it was the userbase. Sharty still has OCs but its shit because the userbase is shit. It's all immigrants and retards. The core of the website was the people who were witty and intuitively understood the culture and the very specific brand of humor, once a critical mass of immigrants who didn't or couldn't integrate arrived, the sharty began it's slow and painful death.
>how do we avoid this?
Impossible. Websites will always bleed the OG users. Furthermore, communities don't grow, they get diluted. And the dilutant won't notice or consider the loss of quality as he himself is that loss. So every community that inevitably goes to shit will continue to be paraded as alive by people who killed it.
The memes and videos and what not were always cool but never the core of what made sharty enjoyable, it was the userbase. Sharty still has OCs but its shit because the userbase is shit. It's all immigrants and retards. The core of the website was the people who were witty and intuitively understood the culture and the very specific brand of humor, once a critical mass of immigrants who didn't or couldn't integrate arrived, the sharty began it's slow and painful death.
>how do we avoid this?
Impossible. Websites will always bleed the OG users. Furthermore, communities don't grow, they get diluted. And the dilutant won't notice or consider the loss of quality as he himself is that loss. So every community that inevitably goes to shit will continue to be paraded as alive by people who killed it.
>>8510
>Is it simply the lack of drive in making original content?
There's still a drive in creating original content, there's always gems being posted on de 'ru afterall. But I can't deny that more and more people are making more OCs of SNCA, especially after the introduction of the FPE fandom and /bp/.
>The losing motivation?
The 'log is definitely demoralizing due to the excessive amount of bait on there. I've met oldGODs on other platforms who have expressed dissatisfaction for how it evolved overtime so they left permanently.
>Being obsessed instead of doing anything about it?
We've been obsessed over troons and fags since the beginning of the sharty, but due to the site splintering which lead to the jarty and jassy and the nuteen's obsession with forcing their own SNCA on the 'log, things have been going downhill and more and more 'teens are not uniting due to retarded reasons.
>Taking every bait instead of seeing it in another angle and not being controlled by emotions?
What's bad is that baiters have increased a considerable amount due to the nuSNCA.
>Being seen as a breeding ground for wrongdoers to blend it without notice?
Ever since the Jarty got shut down and all of them migrated back to the sharty, there's always been consistant goonbait on the 'log which definitely EPI'd many 'teens into becoming a nuJartycvck (making gooner OCs, goonbait, etc...).
On top of that, the amount of trolling and doxxing we've done has ultimately caught the attention of 'cord cabals who are more strategic in their operations to cause a failraid.
>Seeing themselves as holier-than-thou instead of understanding the other party?
This is definitely true, a lot of them say they want every splinter to be gone due to the sharty being superior. But at the same time it's like a rotting, festering husk of its former self.
>Just the normal lifecycle of an anonymous imageboard this huge and influential?
There are definitely ways this could've been prevented, but every admin after Soot has failed to find the solutions. I'm unsure if this IS just the standard life cycle doe.
>The adverse ffects of losing sigh as to what makes soyjaks a classic?
The culture now definitely promotes less 'jakking, more SNCA and people are slowly losing the idea of what makes a soyjak a soyjak. Everyone knows soyjaks as a bald man with glasses and a neckbeard, but they don't know how to make it look as good as the original classic jaks.
>Is it simply the lack of drive in making original content?
There's still a drive in creating original content, there's always gems being posted on de 'ru afterall. But I can't deny that more and more people are making more OCs of SNCA, especially after the introduction of the FPE fandom and /bp/.
>The losing motivation?
The 'log is definitely demoralizing due to the excessive amount of bait on there. I've met oldGODs on other platforms who have expressed dissatisfaction for how it evolved overtime so they left permanently.
>Being obsessed instead of doing anything about it?
We've been obsessed over troons and fags since the beginning of the sharty, but due to the site splintering which lead to the jarty and jassy and the nuteen's obsession with forcing their own SNCA on the 'log, things have been going downhill and more and more 'teens are not uniting due to retarded reasons.
>Taking every bait instead of seeing it in another angle and not being controlled by emotions?
What's bad is that baiters have increased a considerable amount due to the nuSNCA.
>Being seen as a breeding ground for wrongdoers to blend it without notice?
Ever since the Jarty got shut down and all of them migrated back to the sharty, there's always been consistant goonbait on the 'log which definitely EPI'd many 'teens into becoming a nuJartycvck (making gooner OCs, goonbait, etc...).
On top of that, the amount of trolling and doxxing we've done has ultimately caught the attention of 'cord cabals who are more strategic in their operations to cause a failraid.
>Seeing themselves as holier-than-thou instead of understanding the other party?
This is definitely true, a lot of them say they want every splinter to be gone due to the sharty being superior. But at the same time it's like a rotting, festering husk of its former self.
>Just the normal lifecycle of an anonymous imageboard this huge and influential?
There are definitely ways this could've been prevented, but every admin after Soot has failed to find the solutions. I'm unsure if this IS just the standard life cycle doe.
>The adverse ffects of losing sigh as to what makes soyjaks a classic?
The culture now definitely promotes less 'jakking, more SNCA and people are slowly losing the idea of what makes a soyjak a soyjak. Everyone knows soyjaks as a bald man with glasses and a neckbeard, but they don't know how to make it look as good as the original classic jaks.
>>8517
>they don't know how to make it look as good as the original classic jaks
They need to be somewhat cartoony and not a 1:1 copy, for example 'plier wouldn't work as IAS if it was a 1:1 copy of the original image
>they don't know how to make it look as good as the original classic jaks
They need to be somewhat cartoony and not a 1:1 copy, for example 'plier wouldn't work as IAS if it was a 1:1 copy of the original image
>>8516
The best solution I could think of is making sure the old users properly pass on the torch to the new users. What do I mean? Share what they know, and gatekeep itself to only those who can adapt to its history and culture. Can it be done? Maybe. I've seen it happen with 4cuck (though ironically I've also seen this phenomenon in other social medias, but not as prevalent, and more on the generational divide between humanity and culture.)
>>8517
People often know what a 'jak is, but they fail to understand =why= and what makes one a gem.
We've forgotten the soul.
The best solution I could think of is making sure the old users properly pass on the torch to the new users. What do I mean? Share what they know, and gatekeep itself to only those who can adapt to its history and culture. Can it be done? Maybe. I've seen it happen with 4cuck (though ironically I've also seen this phenomenon in other social medias, but not as prevalent, and more on the generational divide between humanity and culture.)
>>8517
People often know what a 'jak is, but they fail to understand =why= and what makes one a gem.
We've forgotten the soul.
>>8519
There isn't really a solution, time erodes all and you can't cling onto anything forever.
There isn't really a solution, time erodes all and you can't cling onto anything forever.
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>>8518
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For example these 'jaks were made 2 years apart from each other.
Notice how cartoony the first one looks and way more soy than the 1:1 one? Even though the latter is LITERALLY traced from a soyboy. You also have to take into account the concepts of the 'jaks, A24 was usually used to depict being overly excited over medias, coalson fills in the niche of fetish shit (just take a look at spadeson or rapeson), meximutt fills in the growing niche of making fun of one's country and so on. You can't make a good 'jak without a clear concept you're making fun of
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For example these 'jaks were made 2 years apart from each other.
Notice how cartoony the first one looks and way more soy than the 1:1 one? Even though the latter is LITERALLY traced from a soyboy. You also have to take into account the concepts of the 'jaks, A24 was usually used to depict being overly excited over medias, coalson fills in the niche of fetish shit (just take a look at spadeson or rapeson), meximutt fills in the growing niche of making fun of one's country and so on. You can't make a good 'jak without a clear concept you're making fun of
>>8520
I know. It's just weird how 4cuck and the sharty is aware of this for years now, yet the rest of everyone on socia media is oblivious to the fact that what they once knew back then would change and be replaced with something else for a new generation. It hurts but it is what we is. Just adapt to the change.
>>8522
You could clearly see the SOVL and artistic talent and intent with the first jak compared to the second, which is just a copy-and-paste traced outline. It doesn't really reach out and achieve a purpose othet than being a trace. Our forefathers were really ahead of their time, without knowing about it back then.
I really wonder where are they now. I want to talk to them, maybe just once.
I know. It's just weird how 4cuck and the sharty is aware of this for years now, yet the rest of everyone on socia media is oblivious to the fact that what they once knew back then would change and be replaced with something else for a new generation. It hurts but it is what we is. Just adapt to the change.
>>8522
You could clearly see the SOVL and artistic talent and intent with the first jak compared to the second, which is just a copy-and-paste traced outline. It doesn't really reach out and achieve a purpose othet than being a trace. Our forefathers were really ahead of their time, without knowing about it back then.
I really wonder where are they now. I want to talk to them, maybe just once.
>>8522
It's almost as if they're supposed to be caricatures and not photo realistic depictions...
It's almost as if they're supposed to be caricatures and not photo realistic depictions...
>>8524
Ironically why I still liked slopjaks despite how absurd they are, but yeah so many of them sadly fall under SNCA territory
Ironically why I still liked slopjaks despite how absurd they are, but yeah so many of them sadly fall under SNCA territory
>>8525
Slopjaks are the symptom of a wheezing dusty culturally dead userbase thoughie, they're so extreme because the people who originally started it, did it in order to one up each other in their namefag wars on the 'ru. The slopjaks insist upon themselves
Slopjaks are the symptom of a wheezing dusty culturally dead userbase thoughie, they're so extreme because the people who originally started it, did it in order to one up each other in their namefag wars on the 'ru. The slopjaks insist upon themselves
>>8522
I'm honestly surprised there hasn't been an indepth 'jakking guide for nuteens, either made by an oldGOD or a newGOD who understands what made it good.
As for the ones based on concepts, it's hard to make one that can perfectly embody it. Considering a lot of the concepts have already been taken up by existing jaks.
>>8524
Perhaps we should learn more about what makes a soyjak a jak to begin with. The swede created the wojak caricatures which evolved in their different niches. We have to like, make it a tracejak, but add enough changes to it so looks like a soyboy caricature.
I'm honestly surprised there hasn't been an indepth 'jakking guide for nuteens, either made by an oldGOD or a newGOD who understands what made it good.
As for the ones based on concepts, it's hard to make one that can perfectly embody it. Considering a lot of the concepts have already been taken up by existing jaks.
>>8524
Perhaps we should learn more about what makes a soyjak a jak to begin with. The swede created the wojak caricatures which evolved in their different niches. We have to like, make it a tracejak, but add enough changes to it so looks like a soyboy caricature.
>>8526
Oh, it was only made out of infighting spite? Sad, it had potential to be used as a tppl mindbreak immigrants and hopefully gatekeep the server. Alas it destroyed the only chance it had in fixing a problem, by leading up to more 😂
Oh, it was only made out of infighting spite? Sad, it had potential to be used as a tppl mindbreak immigrants and hopefully gatekeep the server. Alas it destroyed the only chance it had in fixing a problem, by leading up to more 😂
>>8527
Chat should we make one 😱😱😱
As for the jaks, yeah all the variants we have take every possible purpose and intent imaginable, I think what we lack is application and many more ways to use them to their fullest extent (as some has had more favoritism over the others lately...)
Chat should we make one 😱😱😱
As for the jaks, yeah all the variants we have take every possible purpose and intent imaginable, I think what we lack is application and many more ways to use them to their fullest extent (as some has had more favoritism over the others lately...)
>>8528
Yeah I am more surprised of how they made the jump from that to the jartycuck
Because originally slopjaks were targeting this one user who was known to use the jarty, then somewhere in between instead of the slopjak making fun of the nametroon it just started making fun of the jarty as a whole
Yeah I am more surprised of how they made the jump from that to the jartycuck
Because originally slopjaks were targeting this one user who was known to use the jarty, then somewhere in between instead of the slopjak making fun of the nametroon it just started making fun of the jarty as a whole
>>8527
>I'm honestly surprised there hasn't been an indepth 'jakking guide for nuteens
There's one on the 'ki but it's very shallow and clearly outdated
>I'm honestly surprised there hasn't been an indepth 'jakking guide for nuteens
There's one on the 'ki but it's very shallow and clearly outdated
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>as some has had more favoritism over the others lately...
>>8532
Link? I just checked the wiki and there's a large overhaul last time I saw it
Link? I just checked the wiki and there's a large overhaul last time I saw it
>>8535
Covers the basics well, but I think it needs a section on sovl, purpose, intent, and classic examples.
Covers the basics well, but I think it needs a section on sovl, purpose, intent, and classic examples.
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>>8536
Doubt the nusoikekkers will read it at this point
Doubt the nusoikekkers will read it at this point
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>>8522
Meximutt is NAS doebeit. It's more similar to the wojak as in it's a caricature of a countryfag.
Meximutt is NAS doebeit. It's more similar to the wojak as in it's a caricature of a countryfag.
>>8538
Exactly, but it fills a niche (countrywars), the next variants if there will be any, will probably be pure NAS
Exactly, but it fills a niche (countrywars), the next variants if there will be any, will probably be pure NAS
>>8516
>The core of [a place] was the [a group of people which possessed distinctive, exceptional creative abilities], once a critical mass of immigrants who didn't or couldn't integrate arrived, [a place] began it's slow and painful death.
Wise words, I'll remember them.
>The core of [a place] was the [a group of people which possessed distinctive, exceptional creative abilities], once a critical mass of immigrants who didn't or couldn't integrate arrived, [a place] began it's slow and painful death.
Wise words, I'll remember them.
The site is still salvageable somehow and hopefully it does get saved but here’s the main problems with it now.
>annoying chuddy larp
If you looked at the kway and early sharty ‘jakking you would see that it was a lot more cartoony and less “tnd gemmy cobson gas the kikes o algo” RW shitter type humor.
Of course that’s not to say that type of humour did not exist back then it did, however it was a lot more absurd and cartoonish.
>annoying spammers and coomers
These guys spam their “bait” on the ‘log with their FOTM shit that is often done purposefully to purely coal up the ‘log
>blogposting and metaposting
Self explanatory.
TECHNICAL ISSUES
>datamining
>ads
>main domain STILL not being directed to the actual site
>media approval
>captha
>shit to raisin wordfilter
>lag caused by most of the above
Everything technically can be fixed if they get rid of the current administration.
>annoying chuddy larp
If you looked at the kway and early sharty ‘jakking you would see that it was a lot more cartoony and less “tnd gemmy cobson gas the kikes o algo” RW shitter type humor.
Of course that’s not to say that type of humour did not exist back then it did, however it was a lot more absurd and cartoonish.
>annoying spammers and coomers
These guys spam their “bait” on the ‘log with their FOTM shit that is often done purposefully to purely coal up the ‘log
>blogposting and metaposting
Self explanatory.
TECHNICAL ISSUES
>datamining
>ads
>main domain STILL not being directed to the actual site
>media approval
>captha
>shit to raisin wordfilter
>lag caused by most of the above
Everything technically can be fixed if they get rid of the current administration.
>>8542
>Everything technically can be fixed if they get rid of the current administration
That will never happen and you know it
>Everything technically can be fixed if they get rid of the current administration
That will never happen and you know it
>>8545
When I say technically I mean the technical issues not the other ones I listed.
One could hope that froot gets bored and sells the site to someone competent
When I say technically I mean the technical issues not the other ones I listed.
One could hope that froot gets bored and sells the site to someone competent
>>8549
I wonder how much money he makes from the ads. If more than he spends on the server there is no reason for him to sell the website.
I wonder how much money he makes from the ads. If more than he spends on the server there is no reason for him to sell the website.
Thinking about making a 'jakking thread on /qa/ later to try and create a cohesive guide to creating a good nuvariant.
>>8556
I'm thinking about making a doc that I can edit overtime with new info, what doc app should I use?
I'm thinking about making a doc that I can edit overtime with new info, what doc app should I use?
>>8522
>Notice how cartoony the first one looks and way more soy than the 1:1 one? Even though the latter is LITERALLY traced from a soyboy.
Yikes, those "X year on bald cartoon man with glasses website" awards were right
>Notice how cartoony the first one looks and way more soy than the 1:1 one? Even though the latter is LITERALLY traced from a soyboy.
Yikes, those "X year on bald cartoon man with glasses website" awards were right
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>>8560
Tracejakking like the latter has definitely gotten us some gems like this.
Tracejakking like the latter has definitely gotten us some gems like this.
>>8557
A plain text file and upload it here or to the wiki. You can also create a page on wiki. Both options are better than google docs and don't glow.
A plain text file and upload it here or to the wiki. You can also create a page on wiki. Both options are better than google docs and don't glow.
>>8563
I was gonna add examples or what not using images. I think I'll make like multiple infographics since I intend on making it indepth.
I was gonna add examples or what not using images. I think I'll make like multiple infographics since I intend on making it indepth.
>>8510
Becuase the website got rulecucked to high hell that's why. no fun allowed. no Laissez-faire moderation that kuz did and basically made the sharty from a irrelevant altchan to a titan.
Becuase the website got rulecucked to high hell that's why. no fun allowed. no Laissez-faire moderation that kuz did and basically made the sharty from a irrelevant altchan to a titan.
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>>8513
people overexaggerate how bad kuz was but what i don't like about him is that he just gave up and let froot and doll walk all over the sharty. he also started to stink by the end of his rule, but most of his other rule was absolute kino and how the sharty was supposed to be managed in any way that 95% of people don't understand
>inb4 hes a peadoooo!!!
the only good one
people overexaggerate how bad kuz was but what i don't like about him is that he just gave up and let froot and doll walk all over the sharty. he also started to stink by the end of his rule, but most of his other rule was absolute kino and how the sharty was supposed to be managed in any way that 95% of people don't understand
>inb4 hes a peadoooo!!!
the only good one
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