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Markup /brabant/5077
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>>5076 No, really, what do you suggest to learn if not an official history(which is approved by your beloved amerimutts too btw)? >Youse almost are. Ilmenians were Novogorodians' ancestors, and this russian sub-ethnic group doesn't exist anymore since 15-16 centuries and your statehood and identity anyway comes from Muscovy, so I have to say it's true only by part. Oy wey, that's what I wanted to see so badly. First of all modern Kievans aren't Polyane. And you aren't a Krivich. Population in these territories switched so many times even in middle ages(when mongols totally destroyed Kiev and slaughtered almost every its citizen for example). Slavic tribes migrated here and that's how Russian ethnicity was born. Eastern slavs stopped thinking of themselves only in context of their tribe and started to consider themselves as Russians(Russkye lyudi). Then, the same people started settling on the east(confirmed by archaeology) and found their cities(like Vladimir, Yaroslavl etc). Then, Rus' falls apart and we have few centers of power of former Rus', with Vladimir being one of strongest. THEN, mongols came and obliterated south of former Rus', did some severe damage to Vladimir and barely touched the north. Are you following? Great. Then Moscow becomes a separate city with Prince Daniil from Ryurikovich dynasty being the first ruler of it. And now tell me, which point may be considered as a start of Russian statehood? The first Russian state or the first time when Moscow(quiet province) became semi-independent? >Nope, it isn't. I didn't say Ukrainians are descendants of Polyane only. I said that Polyane were Ukrainians's ancestors. These are the different statements, you see. >Oh, so, your national myth goes back to swedish Varangians who intermixed with Ukrainians ("Polyane")? >Ukrainians ("Polyane") Really, why would I think so? But whatever. If so, polyane are Russian ancestors too as well. >Nobody will read it besides us, russak, so we could discuss it in ziggerish or something. I'd love that very much tbh, but it seems like someone actually reads this shit so you decide. If you respond on this in Russian I'll respond in Russian too, I guess. Also, sorry for being an uneducated ESL nigger, but I WON'T CORRECT ALL THESE LETTERSLETTERSLETTERS. Be understanding, if you could.
