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Markup /brabant/4083
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>>4016 >no, they weren't "mainly" from the Lithuania, most of the nobility was still Polish At least the most famous szlachticzy were descended from these families (like Wiśniowieccy or Radziwiłły) >and those who weren't Polish were adopting Polish customs and religion quite fast <"the majority of the local nobility knew about their Lithuanian or Belarusian ethnic origin, but perceived the linguistic and cultural Polonization of their ancestors as an act of their voluntary political and civilizational choice" Juliusz Bardach >belarusian/ukrainian ethnicity wasn't a thing then And what did you wanna say by this? Does that fact we had other ethnonyms debunk our identity and existence? That's a rhetorical question. >>4017 >but ruthenian was, to be fair Geg, even if it was so, how does it contradict my point? >>4018 "Tutejszy"? >>4015 Whatever vends were, they had been germanized. Also, 99% of the modern Pomeranian and Silesian Poles aren't native, but a result of Soviet policy in Eastern Europe ("half of whitoids we'll deport to Siberia, other half we'll just eliminate and replace"). The only thing you have done by this commentary is dancing on the bones of 2 mln of white germans. >slavs did the same things with colonization, creating history and stuff. I meant they were existing in the worse living conditions (despite their countless tries to build better society, see Kościuszka uprising) compared to Germans and, somewhat sometimes, to Spaniards and other Southerners (as far as I know). Not to mention Russians in general and Russian peasantry in particular, we all know they were in terrible, almost asiatic conditions (European serfdom and "kryepostnoye pravo" it's not the same, yeah, the last one is much worse). >feudalism never existed, all this formation shit is made up by marx Marx made up only that feudalism existed outside of Europe, but, anyway, by "feudalism" I meant a dominance of the sacred right of private property and its influence on everything else, including the state. Obviously, only european racial characteristics could let this type of society to exist. >formations I don't believe in this shit (I wonder why lol), so I'll just say the mentioning of the feudalism doesn't imply that I'm a commie or support formation ideas.