No.944
to elaborate on this
it could be hidden from overboard so that anti-porn prude chuddies dont have to be exposed on it
No.946
>>945i dont want to overcome lust though
No.948
>>946Then what kind of a man are you, who cannot control his sexual urges? One who's slave to sin. But fear not and be brave! Christ has overcome the world!
I shall never add a NSFW board.
No.949
>>948being a coomer feels good and is goof for you and your mental health. it only starts feeling bad once you let all the nofap psyop's that circulate on the internet get at you.
and to this day nobody has ever provided to me a proof that masturbation or porn is forbidden by Christianity. there is literally nothing indicating that in the Bible.
No.950
>>948>Then what kind of a man are you, who cannot control his sexual urges?an average man, unfortunately
No.951
>>949Even if we were to give you a hundred scientific studies to prove masturbation harms you, you've been corrupted by sin.
Repent before it's too late.
No.952
>>949Last time i checked, sex was meant to be the union between a Man and a Woman - a married couple to creat children. Any other perpouse is against what God intended and in the case of porn - higly self damaging. That's what the orthodox church teach.
I have sent you a video with info and i can send you more on this topic, there is enough reasons to stop with this non-sense, but as you have said earlier, you do not wish to overcome lust. Therefore what use is it for me or anyone to help you, when you yourself do not wish to be helped?
One day you will realise what you are doing is sinful - getting you further away from God and closer to death. But know this - the Lord will wait for the day that you will call for his help.
Again, I shall not add a NSFW board. I am sure you know of all the sites out there that already provide such services.
God bless you.
No.953
>>950Do you really want to be average, and not become your best self?
This is the problem with the modern man. They choose to become weak by what society wants them to be instead of become like their forefathers and sacrificing their entire lives for their people.
No.954
>>952ZOOOOOOOOOOOOT ADD ANTI-ROD BOARD NOW NOW NOW!!!
No.956
>>954>ANTI-ROD BOARDMarge
No.957
>>942Coal idea, better than giving money to Israel by going to other porn sites doe
No.960
>>953you really think your ancestors didnt jerk off?
No.980
>>971totally different
sexual pleasure is natural and healthy
No.984
>>982yeah doing crack is totally as natural as cumming
do you even listen to urself lmao u fucking zealot
No.986
>>985you're an idiot
god gave you your penis so that you could cum
on the other hand, your veins were not meant for heroin
No.987
>>986correction, God gave you a penis so that you can make children
No.991
>>985Masturbation is not equivalent to hard drugs
No.992
>>990>>987ok let me breed your bussy then
>>991are you telling me that xxxNoFapPrussianWarriorxxx lied? why would he do that?
No.994
>>993t. graduated from 4cuck university
No.998
>>942trvst me, i used to be a coomer, but when i stopped i became much happier. I recommend you stop goonin'
No.1004
>>994t. graduated from twitter university
No.1106
>NOOOOOOOO you cant do something sexually pleasurable and have a little fun!
>that's the heckin' addiction!
No.1107
>you just dont understand, I NEED TO TOUCH MY PENIS EVERYDAY!
No.1108
>>1107not necessarily everyday but yeah you need to masturbate once in a while. once a week is the ideal in my opinion.
it feels good, helps you relieve stress and is overall a net positive in your life.
you can LARP as much as you want but i know that you do it too. if you gave up this retarded ideology you wouldnt feel bad about it anymore.
No.1109
>>1108stope with the cope man.
No.1110
>>1109it's not a cope, all the anti masturbation and anti porn stuff is.
no adult person can successfully abstain from masturbation for long periods of time (unless they have a spouse), all the people who claim so are LARPing. it's a dumb cult.
No.1113
>>1111>>1112nice projection
is that why you hate porn so much? you can't accept that you have a nigger fetish? LOL
No.1117
>>1108 >not necessarily everyday but yeah you need to masturbate once in a while. once a week is the ideal in my opinion.
it feels good, helps you relieve stress and is overall a net positive in your life.
you can LARP as much as you want but i know that you do it too. if you gave up this retarded ideology you wouldnt feel bad about it anymore.
No.1119
How is this thread still alive
No.1121
zoot do this
No.1122
zoot
No.1124
>>1123coco never said this
No.1125
>>1124tsmt
coco loves porn so much she made a presentation about it
No.1127
>>1125>eventho she doesnt even know what porn ischeckmate, atheists
No.1128
zoot
No.1132
why isnt this thread dead already
No.1133
>>1132clearly because gooning is 'zellig culture and the majority of the userbase wants a gooning board
No.1134
>>1133I have noticed quite a few posts which has shown support for pornographical consumption and sexual self pleasure.
We are a small community and I truly care about everyone in it, so I will help all of you that are addicted and still coping to see the truth and hopefully quit this terrible habbit.
1. Pornography can be a gateway to illegal activities.
Pornography is precisely like any other addiction. Of course it may be less severe on the personal scale, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't treat it like any other. Pornography is a progressive addiction, you start out young seeking relatively normal pornography. You know the standard types; Blond, petite, big tits whatever the fuck you start out with. Of course we all know how dopamine works, drink a bottle of soda everyday and find yourself enjoying it less and less. Then you'll move on to the more stimulant and tabboo subjects. Suddenly you're wanking it to incest, rape, torture and so many other sexually deviant topics. And lastly you'll end up in the deepest pits, consuming Child Pornography because its the most tabboo and disgusting shit that is the most stimulating for your tired brain. CP is illegal, highly illegal. Studies show that people who have consumed CP have been addicts of pornography for a long time.
2. Pornography can turn you homosexual, bisexual or transsexual.
Faggotry is already bad, over the years many have wondered why the rates of it is so sky high. We have many to blame, but one of them is definitely pornography. Again as I explained previously porn is a progressive addiction, you'll grow tired of the old shit and you'll move on to the next. You may move on to homosexual content, which of course can turn you homosexual.
3.The porn industry is horrible
The pornographical industry has been more than just degenerate. Human trafficking, objectivizing women and so much more. There is CP, human trafficking and rape all over porn sites. The moderators of these sites even encourage you not to report this to the feds, and instead report it to them instead.
In october, 2019. A (black) man uploaded a video to the arguably most popular porn website, where he raped an underage girl. This video was not even taken down, it was fucking monetized. The porn industry doesn't care about shit like this, they just want to suck as much money from you as possible.
4. The effects on your brain and you as a person
Scientists have described pornography addiction as comparable to crack. William Struhers, a Ph.D, has told that Pornography hijacks your brain and has long lasting effects on your thoughts and lives.
Frequent consumption of internet porn has also proven to damage your dopamine receptors and lessen the effects of it.
In many cases it has lead to an objectivization of women and a belief that the tabboo subjects you consume are more normal and frequent. This could perhaps be a cause for illegal sexual activites since you believe its more normal, such include incest, rape and others.
When you consume porn you also get a worse self image of yourself. Frequent masturbation is linked with depression as well.
All in all, porn is a terrible habit on par with that of drug addiction. Your various coping mechanisms must stop this once. Quit porn and your life will be better, trust me.
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No.1136
>>1134words words words indeed
you arent providing anyone with an alternative, you're just trying to guilt trip us
if you're going to provide your bussy as a substitute then fine, i'll stop watching porn
otherwise go fuck yourself lol
No.1137
>>1136Ever since you came here you’ve done nothing but cry. Complain, cry, scream. That’s all you do. And when I finally come and try to help you then you just push me off like this. Dismissing me like this is just a proof that you have a severe porn addiction. If you’ve done a little bit of fucking thinking then you should know that I’m just providing you reasons to stop, where to find the methods to do so I believe is up to you asshole.
No.1138
>>1137listen, i dont mean to be rude to you personally, im sure that your heart is in the right place
what you don't get is that you aren't telling me anything i've not heard already. and not only that, i literally used to be you, spamming imageboards with my rants about how porn is literally crack cocaine, seething at lewd threads and so on.
after a while you'll realize that life is too short to obsess about this shit, it's a losing battle
No.1139
>>960yeah but they were usually expelled or put on mental hospitals (depending on the era), most of the time however they went to brothels or rape someone, still some women even on the paleolithic used rock dildos, also monkeys who learn how to do it keep doing it until the day they die
No.1140
>>1139>expelled or put on mental hospitals for jacking offpure delusion
No.1141
>>1134>blah-blah-blahJust remember that pornoindustry run by ((())) and you'll never masturbate lol
No.1142
>>1138a losing battle or not, nsfw stuff will not be allowed here any time soon.
No.1144
>>1143i did not say that.
thing is, where's the evil? you obviously can't explain it without resorting to condescension or weird magical thinking.
there are two people making love on a screen and you're touching your penis while watching it. where's the evil in that? who's harmed?
No.1145
>>1144You are the one being harmed and God has given his revelation that you shoudnt do such things.
Why do people think it's ok to abuse the gifts that God has given us? It does good to nobody. But we are punished by our sins, do whatever you wish, we cant stop you.
No.1146
>>1144>Let people enjoy things>How does it hurt you personally?blud did NOT get the memo 💀💀💀
No.1148
>>1145>You are the one being harmed and God has given his revelation that you shoudnt do such things.that's also arguably false too. there is nothing in the bible that suggests that masturbation is forbidden that i know of, it's a typical case of people mixing up backwards/conservative beliefs with christianity.
>>1146it's nothing like that meme at all. masturbation and porn use doesnt harm anyone, neither on a personal level nor on a larger scale.
No.1152
>>1148>that's also arguably false toohow so? You are basically lusting over women on the internet. I dont know how simpler i can tell this to you. Is it not written "Thou shalt not commit adultery." and "whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart."? It is also written "Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge".
Also "do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies". Porn hurts you spiritually, mentally and physically. You can lie to yourself and continue to interact with your endless harem of succubuses or to try and resist this nonsense. You wont die, if you try to not touch your peepee.
No.1155
>>1152> "Thou shalt not commit adultery.">"Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge".it takes a lot of mental gymnastics to compare adultery with porn and masturbation, im sure you realize that this is a stretch
>"whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart."this is the closest thing there is in the Bible to a condemnation of porn, but thing is in Hebrew the verse is more subtle than this. the word for "woman" apparently implies a married woman, not just any woman, so this is probably a mistranslation of yet another verse about adultery (albeit a "mental" form of it this time).
>Porn hurts you spiritually, mentally and physically.but this is a claim you can't substantiate. it's just something you internalized from consuming propaganda, not something factual. porn can be beauty, even. how can beauty be bad for the soul?
>You wont die, if you try to not touch your peepee.you won't die for sure, but you will fail ultimately. we are sexual beings, there is no way around it.
No.1157
>>1155>it takes a lot of mental gymnasticsnigga, you have to be dumb to call this mental gymnastics. it's simple, sexual relationships are meant for one thing (for a familly to procreate). anything else is a sin (against what God intended). Do you want me to explain this to you with fewer words?
>but thing is in Hebrew the verse is more subtle than this1. the original NT texts where in old greek, not hebrew
2. by holy tradition, this verse is interpereted as Christ condemning lustful thoughts. the meaning isnt changed.
>but this is a claim you can't substantiate>propagandalook
>>1134 also there is enough information on this matter on the net. you cant call anything that you dont like propaganda. doesnt work like that.
>porn can be beautythere is no beuty in porn. if you see meaningless sex and pervetisation/fetishising of the human body as "beauty" then im sorry for you.
>we are sexual beings, there is no way around itWe are men created in the image of God. We are above animals (even given the right to rule over them) and can control our fleshly desires (we are even taught by God to do so).
>but you will fail ultimately“With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”
Go to an Orthodox church. It will help you out.
No.1158
>>1157>nigga, you have to be dumb to call this mental gymnasticsyeah because fucking another man's wife is totally the same as watching porn
>it's simple, sexual relationships are meant for one thing (for a familly to procreate)yeah too bad you cant impregnate yourself
>anything else is a sin (against what God intended). Do you want me to explain this to you with fewer words?you can explain it to me with as many words as you like, it won't change the fact that those words are yours and not the Bible's
>1. the original NT texts where in old greek, not hebrewyeah ok but it still doesnt change what i said
how could you even not lust after women? it would mean there is something wrong with you, only a faggot or someone with hormonal imbalances could do that
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_5:27%E2%80%9328<The word translated as woman is gyne, which can mean either woman or wife. Some scholars believe that Jesus is only talking about lusting after another's wife, not the attraction of a man to a woman in general.[3] Nolland notes that sexual desire is not condemned in Matthew or in the contemporary literature, only misdirected desire.[4]>also there is enough information on this matter on the net. you cant call anything that you dont like propaganda. doesnt work like that.it's all memes come on. if you search hard enough you'll find studies about how having gay sex and injesting 5 liters of sperm a day is good for you, soyence as a whole is a meme and used to push propaganda by both political sides, 90% of studies are non-replicable
>there is no beuty in porn. if you see meaningless sex and pervetisation/fetishising of the human body as "beauty" then im sorry for you.you just choose not to see the beauty in it
>We are above animals>“With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”that doesnt change basic biology. you literally NEED to cum. if you go too long without it your mind will get foggy and you wont think about anything else. if you go without it for some more your body will cum spontaneously for you. how can you deny basic human biology?
No.1159
If zoot added nsfw board, then this thread didn't exist
No.1160
>>1158>that doesnt change basic biology. you literally NEED to cum. if you go too long without it your mind will get foggy and you wont think about anything else. if you go without it for some more your body will cum spontaneously for you. how can you deny basic human biology?Nigger what are you talking about? I haven't masturbated for over 3 months now and I don't think about porn or sex all day, in fact that only happens to me when some tranny posts porn on the 'cuck. I haven't "spontaneously cummed" either. You're just a porn addict
>>1159That will never happen, Zoot should just lock this thread he already made his stance clear
No.1165
>>1155>>1158Palpable cope
It's counter productive to Theosis, it alienates you from God. Sex was given to man for the purpose of reproduction, just as food was given to him for the purpose of giving him energy, but both can be sinful if misused/overindulged in: Lust and gluttony.
<Consider the fact that the renewed earth won't have any of these cardinal pleasures of sex, consider the monastics who abstain from sexual acts for decades, how can you in face of all this call it something necessary? Peter himself said: "It is good for [unmarried and widows] to stay unmarried, as I do. But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion." It's clear sexual immorality is a serious topic and I don't see how you can classify pornography as better than premarital sex. It's a misuse of an otherwise beautiful gift to man.
<Lastly I urge you to look at the surrounding discourse. It isn't called the iconography of the devil for nothing. Both the Roman Catholic and The Orthodox Churches condemn pornography, and so do almost all protestant. And the people pushing pornography as normal are bugmen, jews, satanists and all the worst shmucks you can think of. Truly, reality is so clear you hardly even need to think about what is good and not, God made it beyond evident. Stop coming up with excuses, all were born with inherit knowing of good and evil and I know you realize pornography can't be good or beautiful.
No.1166
gemmy argument thread
No.1167
>>1160>haven't masturbated for over 3 months now and I don't think about porn or sex all day> I haven't "spontaneously cummed" eithereither LARP or there's something wrong with you
get your T levels checked
>>1165>Sex was given to man for the purpose of reproduction, just as food was given to him for the purpose of giving him energy, but both can be sinful if misused/overindulged in: Lust and gluttonyblack and white thinking is a symptom of autism
just like you can enjoy good food in moderation without becoming a 600lbs american mcdonalds addict, you can enjoy porn and masturbation in moderation without becoming a gooner and letting it affect your life too much.
>consider the monastics who abstain from sexual acts for decadesthey abstain from sex. whether they abstain from masturbation, you cant know and neither can i.
>"It is good for [unmarried and widows] to stay unmarried, as I do. But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion."the year is not the 9 AD anymore. getting married is nothing short of a herculean task with the current state of things in the west.
>I don't see how you can classify pornography as better than premarital sex.even then, it's not a big deal as long as it's done within the context of a relationship. especially when you consider that no man with half a brain is going to get married these days, it's been turned into a matriarchal institution.
>And the people pushing pornography as normal are bugmen, jews, satanists and all the worst shmucks you can think of.fine, it's probably true
but just because pornographers happen to be "transgressive" it doesnt mean that you have to be just because you watch porn lol, again it's mental gymnastics
No.1168
>>1167>there's something wrong with youEveryone's got something wrong
>get your T levels checkedI haven't gone to a doctor in a while and I don't feel like going there for this. I get morning woods and I can get erections on demand, I still get in the mood, I just don't go any further
No.1169
>>1167"Enjoying sex in moderation" is enjoying it for it's intended purpose, in marriage. I have no doubt masturbation is sinful but I don't think it's abhorrent, as pornography is.
>whether they abstain from masturbation, you cant know and neither can i.You're reaching, the people who strictly fast more than half of the days of the year? That pray for 8 hours a day and toil the other 8? Next you'll tell me they have playboy magazines too. Insane.
And "current times" is hardly an excuse, moral law and word of God are eternal, they don't contort to your environment, on the contrary, you're supposed to uphold them in environments hostile to God's word.
>Ok, I know what God said about idol worship and homosexuality, but we are in sodom, it's different!The fact that you perceive getting married to be a "herculean task" (even doe most people still get married) changes nothing. Corinthians 10:13 No temptation has overtaken you that is not common to man. God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond your ability, but with the temptation he will also provide the way of escape, that you may be able to endure it.
>It may be true that all the evildoers and God haters of the world are taking a position, and that all the righteous and Godly are taking a stand against that position, but that doesn't say anything about the position itself!Willful idiocy, nothing can convince you.
No.1170
Has nobody addressed the fact that all the Ongezellig characters are underage? You don't even have to be puritan to think endorsing porn of them is fucked.
No.1174
>>1170Most of the nsfw drawfags already stating all characters they draw are considered to be adults, and trying to draw them in adults proportions
Also you forgot about Vera
No.1178
>>1158Coming back to the point you made about matthew 5:27 where you say the greek word used could mean either a woman or a wife. I am from Serbia and we have the same lingual peculiarity, that's to say the word "жена" means woman but can also mean wife, however these 2 NEVER get confused, that's because when someone is just called "жена" it always means woman, only with added context would it mean a wife, example: нечија (someone's) жена; његова (his) жена. So this argument seems to be completely born out of ignorance and cope. And to even think that such a basic error could permeate the most highly regarded holy book for 2 thousand years is absurd.
<Furthermore, if we were to even consider the argument that lusting is only bad when done towards married women (that's to say only adultery was bad) then you could reasonably conclude that fornication is moral as well, seeing as neither parties are married. Obviously ridiculous. Not only that, but you're also taking out the factor in which this "entertainment" of yours was created, mainly prostitution and exploitation.
<The only people that would interpret the given verse in such a flawed and ill fitting manner are those coping and reaching for straws
No.1182
>>1181shiee, almost baited me, Thanks for the heads up
No.1184
>>1181>sees opinion>thinks it's bait.💀💀
No.1185
>>1184well why do you believe that this site is filled with degens?
No.1186
using literally bible verses for arguments
No.1190
All imageboards that add nsfwboards become like 4cuck
No.1244
>>1178>I am from Serbia and we have the same lingual peculiarity, that's to say the word "жена" means woman but can also mean wife, however these 2 NEVER get confused, that's because when someone is just called "жена" it always means woman, only with added context would it mean a wife, example: нечија (someone's) жена; његова (his) жена.weakest argument award, you have no way of knowing if it's the same in ancient greek and the fact that people debate about the meaning of the verse suggests it's not the case
>Furthermore, if we were to even consider the argument that lusting is only bad when done towards married women (that's to say only adultery was bad) then you could reasonably conclude that fornication is moral as wellno but one could reasonably conclude that a normal straight male sexuality is not a sin, since desiring a woman is what men were meant to do, among other things.
>Not only that, but you're also taking out the factor in which this "entertainment" of yours was created, mainly prostitution and exploitation.ohhhh come on lmaooo. all of the girls i watch are guaranteed to be making much more bank than me, exploitation my balls. if they're exploited what am i?
No.1245
>>1244It's not a weak argument, it's providing context to your ignorance. Words mean things and rarely in language is the meaning of something completely dubious. It's a reasonable assumption that this verse, inspired by God, interpreted the way it has been, has a discernible meaning and wasn't just a divine "…or something like that, yeah".
>We don't know that that's how it worked in ancient greekSomeone probably does. Someone who speaks greek probably does, I doubt this is some lost knowledge, it's just that ignorant people like you will parrot these linguistic arguments without actually knowing anything about the language OR linguistics in general and proceed to use your idiocy as some trump card. If you're going to hinge so much of your argument on this one linguistic peculiarity, that still gives you a "it's dubious" at best, you should extensively research it, not take it for granted.
>people debate about the meaning of the verseThe only thing that the existence of this "debate" proves, is the existence of a willfully ignorant contingent of porn consumers. You yourself are this "debate" and yet you know nothing of ancient greek aside from what some, likely equally ignorant and lustful, idiot told you. Would the existence of a debate on linguistics in Leviticus "suggest" that sodomy may not be sinful after all? I suggest you stop debating, it's clearly not your strong point, I'd rather take the word of saints than whatever modern debatebro garbage you're regurgitating.
Also, languages tend to mix with proximity, just as an example, Italian language sounds more like Serbian than Russian does. It shares more sounds with Serbian than Serbian does with Russian, even though Russian and Serbian are from the same linguistic family. So it's not too far fetched to say there are similarities between Greek and Serbian even doe they are totally different languages. And just for the hell of it, here's some results from 2 minutes of googling that seemingly fully supports my hypothesis
>but one could reasonably conclude that a normal straight male sexuality is not a sinTalk about shifting the goal posts! Just went from "indulging in porn is OK" to "being straight is OK". Should I take that as a concession?
>making much more bank than me. if they're exploited what am i?Your words betray your materialistic character. Your entire worldview is built on sand. If adultery is wrong how is production of pornography not? What about porn "stars" that cheat on their husband? Does all of this not exploit a persons soul? To profit off of the erosion of their soul? Is it not a faustian bargain for these so called actresses? And if you were really in the loop about the whole porn debate you'd know just how much abuse and coercion is going on in the industry of sin, plenty of regret on the record. And of course you didn't address the fact that it's literal prostitution, which I don't know, are you going to try defending that next?
Not to mention this whole debate is pointless, look at Christianity from the top down. A religion about suffering and self denial, about fasting and preparing oneself for departure. How do you square the very root and foundation of Christianity with this indulgence in lust, one of the 7 deadly sins, condemned by almost every Christian authority? It's cope.
No.1247
why don't you just wear a chastity cage if you don't want to jerk off?
No.1254
>>1247just chop off your dick lol.
No.1255
>>1245>Someone probably does. Someone who speaks greek probably does,yeah someone like the scholars who argue that the verse is about married women, duh, lmao :^)
>it's just that ignorant people like you will parrot these linguistic arguments without actually knowing anything about the language OR linguistics in generalyeah too bad that's what you're doing, hence why your argument is as weak as it gets
>Talk about shifting the goal posts! Just went from "indulging in porn is OK" to "being straight is OK". Should I take that as a concession?i'm not moving the goalposts at all. that's literally the implication of that verse. if it were to be interpreted the way you'd want it to be, we'd have to assume that being straight is a sin. you're being dense on purpose, you obviously realize at some level that im right.
>What about porn "stars" that cheat on their husband? in a way, not my problem. i dont think someone like that should be in a relationship, and those who are in realtionships are not in conventional relationships obviously, often the husband himself is involved with the industry.
you might argue that it's a sin but the sin is on their part, not mine.
>if you were really in the loop about the whole porn debate you'd know just how much abuse and coercion is going on in the industry of sinthere is abuse probably but just for the "low level" girls. the ones that are famous live the lives of a queen.
>Not to mention this whole debate is pointless, look at Christianity from the top down. A religion about suffering and self denial, about fasting and preparing oneself for departure. pretty sure the obsession with self denial and suffering is peculiarly orthodox, you dont really see it in catholicism and especially protestantism.
No.1258
>>1255>yeah someone like the scholars who argue that the verse is about married womenLikely of the same ilk as scholars arguing condemnation of homosexuality is also a linguistic error. You speak of this grand debate like it's something prevalent, but you're the first guy I've heard engaging with this debate and if anyone tried arguing this point they would be laughed out of any congregation worth their salt. It really is a case of a sand-built argument only circulated as cope. And as for these scholars, the title hardly means anything to begin with.
>yeah too bad that's what you're doing, hence why your argument is as weak as it getsExcept I DO know the nature of this linguistic peculiarity and went out of my way to confirm that it is ALSO present in Greek, which you conveniently ignored because your entire response is a dishonest cope. In fact you ignored the majority of my response and only responded to whatever you thought was easy pickings, but evidently you've overestimated yourself even there.
>that's literally the implication of that verse. if it were to be interpreted the way you'd want it to be, we'd have to assume that being straight is a sinAt this point you're just being retarded for sport. An attraction is not the same as indulgence. Finding a woman attractive isn't the same as fantasizing or jerking off to her. That's indulgence. You can't control which thoughts enter your head but you can control which stay and which take over. Being tempted isn't a sin itself, it's indulging in these temptations.
>in a way, not my problemSo just go and extract cardinal pleasure's from other's fall from grace, yeah sure. Nothing wrong with war profiteering either, you aren't the one killing! Selling meth to people? Well you aren't the one doing it, so not your problem, your soul is clean! Atrociously unsound proposition. And how can you even claim that this makes sense, that indulging in the display of sin with pleasure is clean on your end. Does that also mean watching 'p is fine, since you aren't the one sinning? What about rape videos? What about watching executions videos for entertainment? Don't you think these are harmful to a persons soul? Yet again evidence that the average person isn't qualified to think AT ALL in regards to MOST things. This is EXACTLY why the interpretation of the Bible must be PRESERVED, not constantly challenged by new world bugmen endorsed by gullible hedonists.
>there is abuse probably but just for the "low level" girlsDisplay more ignorance, it's really helping your argument
>self denial and suffering is peculiarly orthodoxTalk about the one true Church! Though it is unfair to Roman Catholics who put emphasis on emulating Christ. But I do agree, Orthodoxy is the only "denomination" with the fullness of faith, ancient and unadulterated by these modern "ponderings"
also I think you meant to say particularly
No.1259
aw neat hyped for this to turn into a "modern vs. classical interpretation" jerkfest here we go fellas
No.1261
>>1246Yes, and? Europe and Europeans aren't Europe and Europeans without Christianity lmao. Especially white colonies in other continents (South Africa, Rodesia, USA, Canada, etc.). Therefore Bible verses are an argument
No.1263
>>1246yeah, it's morals that we use for the bases of our opinions. without the bible and the teachings of the church, with what will you judge exactly? soyance?
No.1331
lock this board it's hell in here
No.1332
sorry my retarded ass said board instead of bread whoopz
No.1336
>>1335/co/omers are in control
stay /calm/, patriQts
No.1553
No please dont add it, I don't want to see anymore ongezelig porn
No.1557
do it zoot. now.
No.1558
zoot
No.1559
>>>/v/
No.1560
zoot
No.1561
zoot do it
No.1562
tsmt
No.1566
Zoot or mods autosage this thread please
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zoot
No.1572
Zoot ## Admin>>1567>>1561>>1560>>1558>>1557I'll add /nsfw/ board in 12 days.
Trvst the plan chvds
No.1573
>>1572HUHHH? ITS HAPPENING OMGGGG
No.1575
>>1573No, that was an impersonator. In 2 weeks I'll be adding /ng/ - never goon
No.1576
>>1575what about /ng/ - nigger gore
No.1577
zoot
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zoot
No.1585
>>1584Do you support BLM zooty zoot?
No.1586
>>1584add a board for NSFW kino.
No.1588
>>1587what about trans rights
No.1589
>>1588You're getting that when you get your weener back.
No.1592
to the rice fields sodomite,,
No.1596
zoot
No.1597
AUTOSAGE THIS IM TIRED OF SEEING IT
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zoot
No.1599
sage
No.1600
also get
No.1603
zoooooooot
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No.1606
ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT
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No.1662
>>942your wish finally came true bud! i hope you’re still active so you can witness this
No.1663
your wish finally came true, congratulations!
No.1696
zoot
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zoot